Griffith's AC upgrade for '84 911 install thread

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by wwest

Sorry, Bob, but I believe firmly in the "KISS" principle...

Just a kiss?!?!

BTW - the KISS principle probably works OK with 911 a/c if you live in a not-very-hot climate or only desire a/c that will cool the cabin to the upper 70s, but if you want more from the system, then you need to do more than KISS it.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by wwest

OP already spent his money, no expectation that he will not go forward "whole hog".

Just throttle it back a bit.

Interested in what OP can pull of with the "kit"

Also, don't let Ronnie get under your skin. He's a professional, you know. He was the key-note speaker at the recent Global Skunk-Butt Colloquium.

Just saying.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Also, don't let Ronnie get under your skin. He's a professional, you know. He was the key-note speaker at the recent Global Skunk-Butt Colloquium.

Just saying.

Best check yo' self, Bob, or imma put some pro-level stink on YOU, bub!!!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Best check yo' self, Bob, or imma put some pro-level stink on YOU, bub!!!

Eric can deliver pro level. Few others can.

Waiting for your stink, chicken hed.

[Bob Kontak]

[Bob Kontak]

OK - I am going to chill to let Skip do his thing.

Very interested.

[wwest]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Just a kiss?!?!

BTW - the KISS principle probably works OK with 911 a/c if you live in a not-very-hot climate or only desire a/c that will cool the cabin to the upper 70s, but if you want more from the system, then you need to do more than KISS it.

Would it help if I offered you the use of my '88 Carrera for the entire month of August?

Ticket to Seattle, you PU.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by wwest

Would it help if I offered you the use of my '88 Carrera for the entire month of August?

Perfect.

Doubt he will have a come back.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by wwest

Would it help if I offered you the use of my '88 Carrera for the entire month of August?

Why would I want to drive around here in Texass in a sauna-mobile (you know, when the a/c thinks it's the heater) ?!?!

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Please don't destroy this thread. Let the OP do his thing.

wwest can't help himself. He has to fling schit in every AC thread. Even after he got his time outs, he still didn't get the picture.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

would pet

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Skip1

Thanks for the comments thus far. I will certainly try to answer the specific queries posed and include pictures for clarification as best I can.

Yeah, that thermostatic tube is a real PITA. I really had to baby mine.

[Neel]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Perfect.

Doubt he will have a come back.

Bob, you are too funny.. lol Willard is Willard, what can we say............
He did make one good point in all the BS..
Have a 'professional' do the charge.. However, there are too many 'professionals' out there that don't have the right equipment to work on P-Cars.. It is well documented in other threads the equipment I use.. AND Charlie (Griff) states as much in his instructions.. If my car (black/black) needs the A/C turned off max in 90*+ here in SC than that's proof enough for me................

[Skip1]

Didn't have much time last night to work on the car, but wanted to feel like I achieved something none-the-less. I straightened out the new thermstatic tube and measured off the tygon tubing that I had purchased locally, leaving about the same amount of tubing exposed as was original with the white plastic sheathing, now way past its life's end. The tubing was the smallest I could get, and still has a very finite amount of space around the thermostatic tube based on its outer diameter (OD) and the tygon tubing's inner diameter (ID). With little to no difficulty, I was able to pass it all the way through, and am now ready to install it hopefully this evening as part of my evaporator work now due. Based on this ease, I wonder if this wouldn't be a much easier process than the original / OEM tubing - I know, that's sacrilegious, but then again, the AC system I'm installing isn't OEM either (it's BETTER!). Hope to get some pics online tonight if all goes well.

[Skip1]

Well, tonight was a productive night, and I have a heck of a back ache to prove it, but all good. The evening started off with the removal of the evaporator box from the smuggler's box. Removal was fairly straight forward using Griff's instructions on angling the box towards the driver's side for ease of removal. Biggest challenge as highlighted was the drain tube protruding from the base, and the rusty hose clamps on the air outlet to the box. The fabric air tube was pretty well disintegrated / torn as well, but managed to remove that at the same time and cleaned off the hose clamps ready for reinstall. Once out, the amount of crap that I found at the bottom wasn't as bad as I was expecting - no dead mice.

I vacuumed it all out, and wiped it down and started to work on the evaporator and motor replacement I had planned. Upon opening, it was no wonder the AC didn't ever work while I owned the car.

Again, I cleaned off all the parts using light soapy water for the plastic parts so as not to ruin them, and then began work on replacing the motor. Wasn't difficult at all, and before I knew it, the motor & squirrel cage were balanced and reassembled with the new Kuehl Wirbelsturm.

Then it was time to shift to the new evaporator and drilling of a new hole for the thermostatic tube, again, took my time and followed the instructions to the letter.
Once the box was prepped, the base got reinstalled in the smuggler's box with insulating foam for the driver's side air intake followed by the insertion of the tin tube that accompanied the kit and then I pulled through the wiring for the fan from the new circuit control board in the passenger side footwell area (still haven't fed the thermostatic tube through, but that'll be next).

Inserted the evaporator, and placed the cover on, reattaching the cover using the new self-tapping screws vice the clips, attached the new hose, and wired up the red/black (although it looked red/brown to me) wire from the control board to the new evaporator fan connector. Guess I just leave the old harness in place, as I'm not sure where that one goes.




I then cleaned up the area cause tomorrow is supposed to be decent weather, and the car needs to move.

As I said, the next step, tomorrow or Friday, will be to feed the thermostatic tube from the console to the evaporator and tidy up all the cables / wires, then it'll be onto the front condenser blower fan replacement I think, but will have to read the next pages of instructions again to make sure my order is right. That's it for tonight. Thanks for the supportive words.

[DaveMcKenz]

Nice work
Dave

[megerian]

I am following with interest, the A/C in my '88 is in need of an upgrade

thanks

[wwest]

Those refrigerant connections should be covered some how until you're ready to connect them up.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Skip1

Upon opening, it was no wonder the AC didn't ever work while I owned the car.

Expand on this, Skip. I see some corrosion but what did you see to think this was the cause of poor/no function?

[wwest]

I know my 78 is different, but is the 84 model different from my '88?

I seem to remember the evaporator squirrel cage blower wheel in my '88 looking more complex than the one in these pictures.