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Rot 911 · 11-07-2002, 07:38 AM

Maybe because it was late. Maybe because I was tired, but I can't believe the problems I am having installing the 930S steering wheel. Actually removing the old wheel took all of 5 minutes. But there are no instructions with the 930S wheel. And to attach the wheel to the spacer requires you remove the two metal disks that operate the horn. That is when the problems began. I didn't pay that close attention to how I took them apart. After all how many ways can there to put them back together? Well it took about 20 tries and an hour and a half to figure it out. There are also two wires. One connects to each of the metal disks which are held apart by a big coil spring. If I connect both wires the damn horn honks all the time. If I only connect the lower wire the horn works correctly. Why are there two wires? I still don't have the damn steering wheel installed. Hopefully things will go more smoothly when I give it another try tonight.

arcsine · 11-07-2002, 07:56 AM

I had the same issue figuring out the wire combinations. Go the wife pretty spooled up with the horn going off all the time to boot. My biggest issue thouugh was getting the wheel on straight. I must have moved it during the intial removal and took four tries. moving a spline, at a time to get it right. It is well worth it in the end.
Remember your deep breathing exercises ...

island911 · 11-07-2002, 08:00 AM

perhaps the "extra wire" is a ground wire. (redundant on the 911, perhaps not on say a 944) (?)

DByers · 11-07-2002, 08:08 AM

Thats odd, only took me 15 min tops to change the wheel. Granted I havent afixed the badge yet. Maybe its easier on the early cars.

carnut169 · carnut169's Garage

I also had the same problems, but eventually worked it out. Worst part was while trying to get the horn right had to leave the battery hooked up and kept getting a small shock!

Rot 911 · 11-07-2002, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by DByers
Thats odd, only took me 15 min tops to change the wheel. Granted I havent afixed the badge yet. Maybe its easier on the early cars.

Yes and you probably paid more attention to how your took the horn mechanism apart than I did!

Doug Martin · 11-07-2002, 10:10 AM

This is from memory but here goes:
center the original steering wheel
remove horn pad, nut and washer
re-center wheel before removing from spline
tape the 2 wires so they can be handled without shock
put new wheel on (centered)
install washer then nut and tighten
intall silver horn ring with spade for wire at 12:00
you will have 3 screws to secure it...pay attention now!
2 of these screws will have a rubber washer on them
1 screw will not...this is the grounding screw
tighten these screws just snuggly then back off a little on the one without the washer
use needle nose to fish out the 2 wires and connect them
I don't think it matters which one goes where, but if I have a chance, I'll pull the pad off and check for you
now push the pad on and you are done

The biggest problem is that most people over tighten the 3 screws on the horn ring causing the horn to either stay on or not work at all. The one screw without the rubber wahser "makes" the contact when you push the ring in...so does the needle nose pliers when you are holding the wire and touching it against the spade connector.

Hope that helps--it only takes about 15 minutes and you do not have to disconnect the battery. Just remember the game "operation" and don't touch the metal ring

Rot 911 · 11-07-2002, 10:14 AM

Thanks for the instructions Doug!

Doug Martin · 11-07-2002, 10:17 AM

No problem--maybe my only 15 minutes to fame

Enjoy!

Vipergrün · 11-07-2002, 10:43 AM

What's the correct orientation of the turn signal cancelling tab? I have mine at the 3:00 position. Turning one direction it works fine, the other requires the wheel be *over-turned* for it to work. I went with a Momo wheel and adapter. Sure like the 930S, thought. It was not on special when I purchased mine.

VincentVega · 11-07-2002, 10:46 AM

About a week after I installed mine I was woken up at about 2 am to the Porsche horn. It turned out one of the screws in the horn right had worked loose and causing the horn to go off. Just a heads up, make sure the little screws are tight!

surflvr911sc · surflvr911sc's Garage

Hopefully we will have a Tech article by the time I get mine. Doug, you seem to have it pretty well sorted out, are you up for writing one?

Rot 911 · 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by bb80sc
What's the correct orientation of the turn signal cancelling tab? I have mine at the 3:00 position. Turning one direction it works fine, the other requires the wheel be *over-turned* for it to work. I went with a Momo wheel and adapter. Sure like the 930S, thought. It was not on special when I purchased mine.

Nope should be at the 9 o'clock position. The canceller is on the same side as the turn signal stalk.

RickC · 11-07-2002, 12:14 PM

Doug is right on for the installation procedure.

Got the wheel last winter and sat on it for two months. While I waited for the weather to break, I tried to envision how the horn pad worked with all the turning of the wheel, and couldn't figure it out. When I took the wheel off, I paid careful attention to how it worked out of sheer mechanical curiosity. Guess I dodged a bullet!

Good luck tonight!

Doug Martin · 11-07-2002, 02:50 PM

After looking again, I need to modify my procedure on the horn portion:
I was wrong about the screws I think.
The flat head screws DO have rubber washers on (2) of them and not on the 3rd.
These screws insert into the bottom portion of the horn ring and into the wheel itself through the larger holes on the top portion of the horn ring.
The Black phillips head screws insert into the top portion and have a PLASTIC washer on them.
I guess all screws should be tight, but I remember loosening the one flat screw WITHOUT the rubber washer just a touch to keep the horn from staying on.
YES, the outer spade terinal should be at 12

o to clear the horn pad cutouts.
The wiring is as follows and makes sense if you look at it:
(2) black wires; one is screwed to a silver allen screw inside thye hub. The other connects to a brass ring on the bottom of the hub...so...power comes from the one connected to the bottom ring and should be installed on the spade terminal of the OUTER HORN RING so when you push it, you complete the circuit.

I hope that clears things up.

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Doesn't anyone read the website anymore? I just posted a link to the tech article here:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_930S_wheel/911_930S_wheel.htm

Guys, there are no excuses for complaints, if you don't even look at the website!

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

STEP #1 - Disconnect the battery!

-Wayne

Rot 911 · 11-08-2002, 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
Doesn't anyone read the website anymore?
Guys, there are no excuses for complaints, if you don't even look at the website!
-Wayne

Wayne, I already read the tech article before I purchased the 930S wheel! However, if you look at the tech article and then read about our problem, you would realize that the tech article doesn't even mention that you have to disassemble the horn mechanism to attach the steering wheel to the space/hub adapter~! By the way, last night having figured out how it all goes together I was actually able to get it all installed correctly in less than 15 minutes.