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TX911SC 03-24-2016 06:56 PM

Fuchs Lug Nuts
 
Getting ready to replace Turbo Twist wheels on my 911sc with Fuchs my son just refinished for me. Would appreciate help on using the correct lug nuts. Current lug nuts on turbo twist wheels are very light-weight black closed-end lug nuts. Will they work or do I need to buy different lug nuts for the Fuchs? One more piece of info -- I'm told my Fuchs are turbo wheels as identified by the area where the lug nuts seat (counter sunk). Does THIS fact dictate different lug nuts?

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sugarwood 03-24-2016 08:18 PM

This is what my '86 came with
http://www.pacificcustoms.com/mm5/gr...1/whl018_2.jpg

Geronimo '74 03-25-2016 02:14 AM

Your Fuchs should have 9x16 stamped on the inside.
This would mean they are "turbo" fuchs.
They do not need different lug nuts than "regular" Fuchs.

oh snap 03-25-2016 02:42 AM

The black closed end lugs are factory aluminum lug nuts. They will have a ball seat as opposed to conical that
Most other makers use. They will work with your fuchs.

PWICK911 03-25-2016 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh snap (Post 9052339)
The black closed end lugs are factory aluminum lug nuts. They will have a ball seat as opposed to conical that
Most other makers use. They will work with your fuchs.

Yep, these are the nuts on minehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1458903333.jpg

db_cooper 03-25-2016 03:29 AM

As a side note. When I was is Porsche training back in the 80's..a classmate stated the lug nuts on a 911 were aluminum. They were quickly corrected by the instructor and we were told the OEM Porsche 911 lug nuts are made from titanium. Aftermarket lug nuts were aluminum alloy. OEM 911 lug nuts were to be buttered up with anti-seize on the threads and torqued correctly.

Don't know the OEM lug nuts for a fact are titanium..just what I was told back in the day.

yellowperil 03-25-2016 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_cooper (Post 9052361)
As a side note. When I was is Porsche training back in the 80's..a classmate stated the lug nuts on a 911 were aluminum. They were quickly corrected by the instructor and we were told the OEM Porsche 911 lug nuts are made from titanium. Aftermarket lug nuts were aluminum alloy. OEM 911 lug nuts were to be buttered up with anti-seize on the threads and torqued correctly.

Don't know the OEM lug nuts for a fact are titanium..just what I was told back in the day.

I think they are NOT titanium. Aluminum or aluminum alloy. BUT ....I could be wrong. What they are is nice and light and durable.

Bill Verburg 03-25-2016 05:16 AM

All oe Fuchs come w/ 14mm, ball seat, closed face, Aluminum lug nuts.

These come in black oe, there are also aftermarket aluminum versions in black, polished and chrome

There are also aftermarket steel open face mostly used on track cars

and there are also aftermarket Titanium, both open and closed face.

TX911SC 03-25-2016 07:35 AM

Thanks folks....love the forum......great info as usual. Appears lug nuts I'm currently using on turbo twists will work fine with the Fuchs. Thanks again.

Joe Bob 03-25-2016 08:02 AM

Read the threads on broken alloy nuts, you will switch to open faced steel, ricky tick!

island911 03-26-2016 08:43 AM

meh, there is no epidemic of Al lugs breaking. No doubt there have been aftermarket lugs made from wrong alloy, but factory Al alloy lugs perform quite well. --and there are a LOT of those in service.

Oh, and you can certainly over torque any fastener to failure. The biggest loads, on the fastener, come from torqueing them on.

blee 03-26-2016 09:08 AM

Or you could go with these Titanium gems custom made by Mr. Jim Tidwell in San Diego (jtidwell@speakeasy.net). He makes other custom factory option parts as well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459011986.jpg

blee 03-26-2016 09:41 AM

His recommended lubrication...
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Jdub 03-26-2016 10:07 AM

You are going to love how this car looks when you get those on!

I use a battery male terminal cleaner inside the lugs to clean the threads, brass brush on the stud threads, and a good jet of air. Check no burrs on the round lug section and a nice smooth surface to mate/twist on.

Secret of any good torque is twice, in criss-cross. Get the wheel set square on first torque then hike it to the final spec.

Bill Verburg 03-28-2016 07:44 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459179465.jpg
The biggest issue w/ aluminum is that it is soft, no matter how careful you are the shoulders get munged, Al. closed end, these were new 2 years ago
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459179479.jpg

steel is heaviest and rusts unless painted
steel open ended
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459179509.jpg

Ti open ended are lighter than aluminum close ended but are a bit pricey
Ti. open ended
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1459179494.jpg

Craig_D 03-28-2016 09:00 AM

Love my Rennline steels on long studs:



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PWICK911 03-28-2016 09:58 AM

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winders 03-28-2016 10:31 AM

I am a racer and I would never waste money on titanium lug nuts......

Bill Verburg 03-28-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 9056657)
I am a racer and I would never waste money on titanium lug nuts......

We don't need your resume

your opinion here is as valued as much as most of your others

winders 03-28-2016 11:53 AM

Okay, Bill. None of the racers I know use titanium lug bolts or lug nuts. Steel is MUCH cheaper and is a better choice in most cases. Why? Just as strong and with less galling and less likelihood of galvanic corrosion. It's just not worth the weight savings.


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