What tail is this and could it be original?

[Sirius Driver]

My car came with this tail, and I've done a lot of researching only to be confused by all of the pics and descriptions... So can someone with better understanding let me in on this.
Details:
Fiberglass Decklid with 2 piece grill
Rubber is bolted on to the wing
Car is a 1982/83??? Euro ROW
it was repainted sometime in the 90's. TIA
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[TRE Cup]

if its all fiberglass, with the rubber (even if oe rubber) its a fake. it looks like it fits pretty well too
take a magnet to the inner frame and post a pic, so we can comment further

[Bob Kontak]

Looks like the Turbo Carrera tail.

[DRACO A5OG]

Originally Posted by bob kontak

looks like the turbo carrera tail.

+1

[RatBox]

As far as original equipment to your car (if your wondering) .

From 1981 Model year on . The front & rear spoilers option (M473). For the rear , would have been the 3.3 Turbo whaletail (bolt on to steel decklid , fiberglass main section , with the turned up rubber lip bolted to that ) :

[john walker's workshop]

got one on my 77 930. glass over metal.

[Bob Kontak]

I asked Don McGill Porsche in Houston back in the late 90's how much they cost. I figured if the Carrera type tail was $900 then, with rubber, the Turbo Carrera tail would be say...$1,200. The price was $3,500.

[Geronimo '74]

Like said before, if it's FG completely, then it's a replica.
It's an early turbo tail.

[peon77]

Originally Posted by TRE Cup

if its all fiberglass, with the rubber (even if oe rubber) its a fake. it looks like it fits pretty well too
take a magnet to the inner frame and post a pic, so we can comment further

Wrong.

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

Like said before, if it's FG completely, then it's a replica.
It's an early turbo tail.

Wrong.

Here is a good thread for education.

The original OEM tail thread collective documentation

[RatBox]

Peon77 ,

Unfortunately , I think the majority of things we've discussed on that thread (and others) are lost on most people who frequent this forum (and around the world).

[ivangene]

hard to tell but this one is "kind close" too

[RatBox]

Nice gamms...

Close no cigar , that's an extended group 4 tail.

Differant main shell. Differant rubber

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

Like said before, if it's FG completely, then it's a replica.
It's an early turbo tail.

No one said it was real.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by peon77

Wrong.

. . .

Wow! TRE Cup doesn't know about early Turbo Carrera tails and John Walker didn't catch the mistake?
Hmmm... So they need to do a bit of studying to learn about Porsche's...
And elephants fly which is why I'm digging out my umbrella.

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There are a short list of people on this board with a level of knowledge gleaned from decades in the Porsche business that is so broad that everyone just stops and listens when they talk:
- Grady Clay
- John Walker (john walker's workshop)
- Dave from TRE (TRE Cup)
- Steve Weiner from Rennsport Systems (Steve@Rennsport)
- Bill Verberg (specific to brakes and wheel fitments)
- Steve Wong (specific to DME and chip alterations)
- (any that I missed; apologies, but the people on this list don't have the egos that would ask for an apology...)

When they comment on any question you have a good response is to smile and be thankful that you got the advice for free.

[RatBox]

peon77 is correct , and anyone who stated that ALL early whaletails that are all fiberglass bases (no metal frame) are not factory parts is incorrect.

Why do you find that so hard to believe ?

If you would go read the thread he suggested (or a few others on this forum) you could see proof of this via photographic evidence.


Your list of people you look up to , might be very knoledgeable

But , NO-one is always correct.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by peon77

Here is a good thread for education.

The original OEM tail thread collective documentation

Post 44 shows the all fiberglass tail with the little vent. Is a person completely SOL if the rubber is missing?

[Sirius Driver]

Interesting stuff, sorry about the delay, Ive been working on my brother's Bmw e34 and its been a long weekend. The coilover install part was my favorite, but the Thrust arm replacement was no fun at all. I'm heading back home tonight and I will post more pics in the morn. I really wanna figure this out. I mean, It's just a matter of knowing, for me.

[Bob Kontak]

Regardless of originality, it is a nice looking tail.

[giovanni86]

regardless of originality, it is a nice looking tail.

+1

[Wavey]

Originally Posted by RatBox

peon77 is correct , and anyone who stated that ALL early whaletails that are all fiberglass bases (no metal frame) are not factory parts is incorrect.

Why do you find that so hard to believe ?

If you would go read the thread he suggested (or a few others on this forum) you could see proof of this via photographic evidence.

Your list of people you look up to , might be very knoledgeable

But , NO-one is always correct.

RatBox and peon77 - I reviewed that thread and I don't see any evidence that any factory tails were all-FG. Could you please cite the specific tail(s) you're refering to?
I'm pretty sure that all factory tails had steel or aluminum bases, and that the FG material was the high-quality grid-weave, never the random-strand stuff. I believe TRE and JW are correct but we could all be wrong. BTW, I have an OEM '76 Carrera 3.0 tail on my '88 - it has a steel base and the grid-weave FG.