What year/type is this 70ies 911 shell?
 

We are restoring this former 911 rally cross car to its former glory... The plan is to maintain as much of the racecar as possible, yet make it road legal.

It was first built in Germany in the seventies, and came to Denmark in 1979. Since then it ran a lot of races and was even Danish Champion back in 1986.

It has a "race car" VIN-number. And the sheet metal for all "normal" 911-numbers is cut away due to the modifications done to it. (next tpo the gas tank and the radio...)

So - the question is: What year/model is this body shell??

It must be 1974 - 1979, because it has impact bumpers and it was first raced in 1979. But - who can be more specific? We are not experts...yet.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475704575.jpg
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We have got lots of photos...let me know if there is an area that could help on the identification...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475704771.jpg

One of the many liveries it had... Here at Lydden Hill in 1989:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475704930.jpg

Rear suspension 74-76 and should a date on them Might be early turbo body 76 It a real warroir.

Cool trailer.!

MattR

Shock Towers
 

Just wondering why the rear shock towers weren't reinforced on a rally cross car? Are later bodies stronger in this area than the earlier models?
Bob B

Not a 74 due to slant at the the most rearward section of rain gutter.

Isn't year of manufacture discernible from the VIN?

Yes, of course, but the OP doesn't know the original Porsche VIN. He said that all of the sheet metal containing the original numbers was cut away. The "race car" VIN is just an assigned number.

THANKS! Very helpful. Could you be more specific? What details of the rear suspension date it to 74-76?

What indicates that it could be a Turbo/930 body?

And - you indicate that there is a date stamp in this area? Where?

All bolt-on parts can be / has been changed on this car....so I am looking for specific details of the body / chassis / structure - that can date it as specifically as possible.

THANKS!

Thanks! What do you mean...could you describe exactly this detail? Very useful!

Here it is in the first livery it had in Denmark. "Tuff-Kote", leading the pack in 1978:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475736145.jpg

Is there any part of the lower dash sheet metal still there, under the black sheet metal that was added?

Can you post picture of the trunk? Behind the fuel tank on the left side of the car and also the inner sides, towards the front.

JR

The car has provenance. I would collect and compile the history of the car.

I would also be tempted to restore it to one of the configurations from it's history. The true value of this car is it's history. Granted it's not a LeMans history but it does have more history than the average 911.

Even more value can be added if your rebuild it to the FIA rules.

Richard Newton
FIA Historic Rules

Thanks a lot for all help - very much appreciated!

If the statements so far are true and clear...it seems it is a 1975 or 1976 model???

Here are some pictures of the front and inner trunk - let me know what you see:

The outside:
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The inside:

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It will be returned to its first livery and looks, with the 2,7 litre that was in it back then. The aim is to preserve as much as possible of the race-battle-scars, yet make it road legal...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475759405.jpg
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What a history! Love the vintage racing pics, keep em coming...

MattR

My first thought was that it might have been a '75 or '76, but they have cut away so many details that would help identify it, I'm not sure I could help you without inspecting it in person. It does have some parts of an earleir car welded into the tub.

It may have been halfway well prepared early in it's life but whoever has worked on it since needs to be taken outside the back of the workshop and shot in the head, so they can't keep doing that to other cars.

Personally, I'd throw that whole tub away.

JR

I think the only body parts left untouch is rear seat aera and Inside panel.