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1 o2 sensor- how to make it work on a dual exhaust setup
Hey Everyone.
kinda weird question for those exhaust exports, I am going to break this down because there is a bit to it. DETAILS- my car is a 81 911 sc with a 3.6 engine from a 1995 porsche 911. my car (with 95 3.6 engine) is running s-car-go race headers with a gt3rs muffler the oem engine has 1 o2 sensor that collects data from both headers via a cross pipe that goes into the muffler (please see random google pic below, you can see the o2 sensor where the exhaust comes together) ![]() my setup has no pipes that come together other than the muffler- please see random pic of the exhaust setup like mine) ![]() THE QUESTION> how do I get the stock o2 sensor to read the exhaust from both sides of the engine with my setup? do I cut the muffler and weld the sensor in? do I just run off one side? is there a kit to run two? or- what options do I have? remember this is a obd1 engine- which is different from the 96-98 obd2 setups. thanks Gents |
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You use one O2 sensor in one of the headers, you don't need two. You assume that the A/F ratio is the same on both cylinder banks. I (and many others) have run this set up for years, and it works fine!
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I believe the early versions of the SSIs had an option for an O2 sensor bung. It was only on one bank just like Fly911 said.
I believe that is the most common approach. You want the O2 sensor as close to the exhaust ports as possible. There shouldn't be an a meaningful variance between the left and right bank anyway.
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'95m is OBD1 and has only a single O sensor input, you could put the O sensor in the muffler and get the average of both banks but most of us just put it on one side .
Mine, w/ the o sensor bung on the left side bank ![]() OBD 2 cars will have 4 inputs, 1 pre and 1 post cat on each side.
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I run left side 02 sensor to DME.
I run right side 02 sensor to AFM meter in dash Works just fine |
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I put a bung in each header.
I only run one sensor but I have the option of switching it to the other header if I ever wanted to use it for trouble shooting or whatever. So far I haven't figured out a reason to test the other side yet.
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Manufacturers recommend not locating a WB sensor too close to the exhaust port - for longevity purposes.
Sensor(s) located too far downstream might delay A/F readings and thus confuse accurate diagnosis. One could install a WB sensor system that supports two wide band sensors, or two independent sensors (and two gauges). More info is better up to a point. For one off, experimental engines, a WB sensor near each exhaust port provides even more accurate cylinder-to-cylinder info. Reminder. Installed O2 sensors must be connected to a working system less they become contaminated by exhaust byproducts. Sherwood |
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