Wiper stalk ground

[roctor]

Hello all, The brown wire has no spade on the wiper stalk to attach to, Where does the other female end attach to? This is a new item from PP. The car is 1974. Thanks Roger. Infamous #1458

[timmy2]

I believe that is the horn ground.
Oops, I was thinking turn signal stalk....

[roctor]

Second time around. With ignition on, no power to stalk. I checked all firewall plugs. All in. Checked with a lighted tester to horn and found it hot. Ran jumper from horn to red wire on stalks wiring board and still no wiper movement. What to do?

[KTL]

Funny to see this question come up because I was just dealing with this the other day in my '86 Carrera. Several months ago I had taken out the steering wheel and the clamshell plastic covers, leaving the brown wire (terminated with a flat spade and screw hole in the spade) hanging loose. I forgot where the brown wire reconnected to the steering column and was having difficulty seeing a proper place to connect it. So I connected it to the bracket where the wiper stalk assembly screws onto the steering column.

Horn works but I didn't try the wipers. I'll try the wipers when I get home. I know for certain the brown wire in question here is the ground for the wipers, as it comes directly from the grouping of wires in the wiper stalk body

[Walter_Middie]

roctor,

I'm not sure exactly where you are stuck. If the wipers are not working, and switch looks OK, maybe you'll have to start tracing wires and checking to see that you have +12V where you should, and looking at the wiper motor itself:

The wiper switch consists of terminals # 53a, 53, 53b, 53i, 53e, and 53c. During wiper park cycle, 53e (blue wire) is connected to 53a (red/white wire, +12 v all the time). The connection is made when the wiper switch is off and the motor is not in the park position. The motor makes connection between 53e and 53a with an internal disk. The wiper switch connection between 53e and 53 puts the wipers into the slow mode, until the disk inside the motor turns to the park or off position.

53a Red/White = +12 v all the time
53a Black to capacitor and to red/white in parallel = +12 v all the time
53 Red/Black = slow speed wipers
53b black/yellow = medium speed wipers
53i green = fast speed wipers
53e blue = park at slow speed
53c black = washer pump motor

[roctor]

Another day another confusion. No elec to wiper stalk or wiper motor. I jumper live wire to red on stalk. The motor does not have red wire to plastic mother board on motor. I jump elec to wires on motor, still no movement......???????HHHHHEEElllllpp!

[roctor]

Hello all. I pulled the plug at the firewall. With ignition on I checked all inserts with light tester. No avail. Does the trunk plugs go directly to the fuse box. If answer is yes, Why then are all inserts dead?

[SpyderMike]

Roctor, can you help us to help you? What exact part number did you buy that you are trying to install? Do you have any pictures of it? Did you remove one and replace it with a new one? Do you have any pictures of that? What was the issue that led you to replace it?

Thanks,
Mike

[timmy2]

IIRC the '74 dash harness has two relays under the dash associated with the wipers and intermittent function with 6 pin rectangular connections. Make sure those relays are good.
Ignition needs to be on for power to reach just one of the 6 pin through dash female connector pins.
The 74 schematic may help.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s292jtsyvl6llw2/AABF-ofgMfoMltGa99Asphr5a?dl=0

[roctor]

Finally, back again. The wiper stalk number is 911-613-306-01-OEM.

[roctor]

Help,,, Have photos to post, but having tough time doing o. When I try to insert pic, a pop up asks for URL for source. What source may I ask? Roger

[SpyderMike]

Aren't you seeing the drag and drop box for photos when you click to up load?

[roctor]

No, I see a pop-up box asking for URL on photo. When I try to upload from my pictures or Imgur, I get red circle with horizontal line through them. Roger...Yellow square icon on right above.

[roctor]

[IMG]www.imgur.com[/IMG] http://i.imgur.com/UqMNM9T.jpg

[roctor]

Top pic.. This insert receiver which tester is inserted is the only one that has power when ignition on. Mid pic.. Example of new wiper switch. Bottom pic.. Do these plugs go directly to fuse box? The plug for the ignition (Not shown) has to be jiggled to start car. Are these connecters the fox? Thanks Roger. Owner of infamous #1458.

[SpyderMike]

You really don't want to be plugging the connectors into the incorrect positions.

They are a little fiesty and need to be correctly inserted to get a solid connection. The rubber works against you. They are also keyed (you can see the key at the connector's 6 o'clock position in your last photo). They are also pinned to match (note that some pins and sockets are missing - different positions on different connections).

If you are not sure which one the wiper inserts into, then please wait. I will see if I can discern that from mine.

[SpyderMike]

I identified the plug and socket prior to disconnecting so that I plug them back in the correct location. I did not write down what location is for what. My wires are all bundled up and I do not want to remove the loom to disconnect them. You want to know what receptacle is for what function and connect them in the proper location. I know the information is out there.

Power is coming and going through those bulkhead connectors.

Did you remove the old switch?

[SpyderMike]

From another post on the subject, Jim75911S identifies the bulkhead connections on his 1975:

On my 75 911 the plugs go as follows. Starting on the top left w/top being towards windshield and left being towards drivers door #1 headlight switch #2 emergency flasher.

Next row below -#1 ? #2 wiper switch #3 ignition switch. I did not mark #1 on the lower row, when reconnecting put the one that is left over here.

So, following his labels, the wipers would be the center of the row of three connections. You can check continuity from that location to the proper fuse for the wipers to verify.

[SpyderMike]

So posting pictures:

If you use the button at the bottom left of the last post in the thread (the rectangle with pencil and POST REPLY) then it is right there at the red arrow:



and if you do the quick reply method, then you must go advanced to see this drag and drop picture method:

[roctor]

Thanks all for your insight. I try reindexing plugs. To Spyder, I bought this camera and learn how it works and uploading. Tuff work for a luddite. Next time circles, lines and arrows. Thanks Roger