Very nice Scooter, and not too many cabs done either.
Ah, the Bluebird.....:D

I have seen one cab fitted out with the RUF kit in Germany, he was honking out of Dusseldorf - I did wonder though?????

Where did you get the logo's from? Kept mine unbadged at the rear and does create a few questions.
Regards

Jammo.;)

Actually, this car belonged to a friend of mine in Seattle. Everything on the car was authentic Ruf. Unfortunately, he sold the car and got out of the Porsche scene.

Thanks! Not bad...I'd call it an improvement. I think I'd like it better w/o the tail. I still have trouble warming up to the looks of 911 cabs tho. Just me..

Hey Jammo, nice work and in black too, an unforgiving colour for imperfections. The tires that were on the CTR were the Dunlop Denloc.

Hi Schnele,
Yep, black has to be the most difficult to get right, as you say 'unforgiving'. :eek: It took ages to get them right but I still think it was worth the effort.
I assisted a lad who put RSR style arches on his car which was white and to be honest I think you could paint it with a roller and it still would have looked good. White is a colour that just stays 'flat', just the opposite to black.

When it's clean its very clean, when is a little bit dirty it's filthy.
Regards

Jammo.;)

Front lower lip
 

I've always wondered if I could extend the lower lip spoiler I'd added to my front valance, ala Bill V's attachment method. So I gave it a try. I not only lowered it, but if you look closely I extended it around the corner to the edge of the wheel well similar to the factory lower lip. There's a definite improvement in the stability of the front end at speed, ie over 120 or so at the track. There were places at VIR and MidOhio where the front end would start to get a bit light but now it's better. Still need a splitter to keep the front down but better than before and far better than with the stock bumpers and front lip.

Interesting comparison- same turn at Blackhawk, June vs October

Before:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257964571.jpg


Now:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257964359.jpg

Nice, Ed.

Hi Ed,
you couldnt say a truer word.
I wanted to restrict as much air as possible going under the car and by plumbing up the ducts to the brakes/cooler, fitting the cooler in the centre and moreso the under lip rubber, the car is much better planted than with the standard front end. The benefit in weight reduction is fantastic and the wind noise has greatly reduced.
I made my under lip from the original lower impact bumper rubber as it is stiff enough to stay rigid under frontal pressure.
Does the car handle better than standard???? 100% better - can see the results of the original development from RUF should have been adopted by Porsche.
Here is mine before the rear arch and flag (air brake) mirror replacement with RUF's.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...mo/Finito1.jpg

Regards;)

Jammo.

I've also seen the oem rubber chin adapted to the Ruf fronts
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1257971251.jpg

I like to stock lip addation.

Venting the oil cooler through the hood is believed to make a real improvement.

There is a 1988 RUF CTR for sale at Autotuning here in Norway
A U T O T U N I N G RUF CTR

I have also seen that they ad this car in Germany and UK as well.

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_80.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_85.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_87.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_89.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_91.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_93.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_95.jpg

http://autotuning.no/sitefiles/site4...op/6437_97.jpg

In the add they state it's an 88 so why does it have the earlier dash?

Wild colour...

I'm in love. ...*sigh*...

has anybody got an idea what kind of wheels these are??
There Ruf (speedline) but not from a yellowbird, I think...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1262694769.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1262694778.jpg

I don't think they're original RUF wheels.

They may be Speedline but they don't look right.

I think I remember seeing those on 964 based Ruf models.

Google search...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1262695235.jpg

Found here...

http://www.sportscaradvisors.com/autos-for-sale/porsche-cars/porsche-911-carrera-4-type-964

Not the same wheels. Look at the profile of the spokes on the front wheel.

Peter, this is build on a 88 930, and they used the same dash in 930 until 89.
New dash was introduced as far as i know in 91 when the new 964 turbo (965) came out

Thinner, yes. Maybe an evolution of the wheel?

You're probably right but as with any small company like RUF anything is possible.

Some more pics from engine bay. Add in Germany
RUF-PORSCHE CTR 1 FOR SALE)

http://home.snafu.de/roger.rotzinger...F%20CTR1_7.jpg

http://home.snafu.de/roger.rotzinger...F%20CTR1_8.jpg

I wouldn't be surprised if they were sold as Ruf "replicas" as well...for the "average" 964. :)

Seriously what's up with this Green Ruf...
If i was paying over 1000,000 Euro I would want to know what year it was.

From the add... Year: 1985 / 1988 ????

Could that mean it was built by Porsche in 85 but converted to a CTR in 88?

That would be my guess. I think for the newer cars he/they can get body shells from Porsche, but in the earlier days I think he/they had to start with complete original cars. (??)

They real allright, I just have never seen them on a car, not that I can remember anyway...
They're 17", 8" and 9" wide.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1262699411.jpg



That green car rocks, very fine ride, I like it a lot.

How much it the green car in dollars?

Is it saying it has a 6 speed trans?


On another thread it seems a Turbo front flair looks like it can go on the rear and allow for a 10" wheel like the original YB.

They started to get bodies from Porsche in the very late 80's/early 90's after TUV Certification as a manufacturer as opposed to a tuner.

139,000.00 EUR = $200,391.42 USD

Something is strange regarding the year of this car.. as Peter is correct.

That is an earlier dash as used in the 911 through 85. 86 > had the larger center & end vents which carried over to the 964 etc...

I like the steering wheel,but the fabric on the seat's --- not so much....http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1262709878.jpg

I would love to have a Ctr, but isn't $200k usd crazy money? One could build a better car for much much less. I guess $150k of the cost is for the Ruf nameplate.

I guess you can build a better car for less, but an original RUF would have a better aftersales market price
A more collectors item I would guess

As much as I would like to have a real RUF, would the $200K Ruf necessarily increase in value? Especially if I like to drive it, as opposed to letting it sit in my garage so I can sneak out after dinner with a glass of wine to stare at it? ;)


I suppose a $200K Ruf collectable that loses some value, say $$20K, is probably not as bad for the collector...just the same, a $50K replica that is "better" selling for $30K is probably....acceptable. Especially if the replica owner enjoys the replica and drives it as much as he/she can.

I'm not for nor against replicas or real, but I think one should enjoy the fruits of one's hard labor/earned money. If you want a collectable buy art. By a car to drive it. :D


On a technical level: The original CTR really can be easily superceded these days with a well built turbocharged 3.3 or 3.4 using a 3.2 Motronic engine as a starting point mated to a G50. Suspension parts are easy...go coilover if you want to. Body work? no problem....

Soukus, I love it! SmileWavy

Some people don't get that ;)

A DIY guy can equal the performance for under $50k including to purchase of a clean low milage G50 911 core.

The VIN number in the add is listed as a Porsche VIN. So it would be safe to assume that this is a Porsche factory car that was converted by RUF to become a CTR.

Makes me want to convert mine..... :D:mad:

I know RUF had some vets in the upper flare to get cooling for the intercoolers.
How does this CTR get sufficient airflow through the intercoolers for optimal cooling?