Lee-
As the first Pelican I met personally after becoming acquainted on the Board, I can tell you that you embody the things that make this a great forum and clubhouse. Best of luck with the wife, and the next 911 will be cooler b/c you and she can pick it out and trick it out together.

Best,

JP

Sorry to hear your leaving Lee. When I saw your name next to a thread I always took the time to read it because I new I would either learn something or get a good laugh.

Best of luck in your endevours!

DON'T BE A STRANGER HERE, LEE!

Sorry to hear you are leaving O Great SCWDP Leader. The force is strong with you. For this reason, the absence of your metallic extension of your soul will haunt you like no other. A reflection off a bus window, the raspy exhaust, the teardrop sillohuette you didn't quite catch in your side vision will force you to involuntarilly turn your head to catch the ghost that you let go. It will never go away and can never be fully replaced so don't even try. Say goodbye to your car, your friend, your automotive lover with a ceremony of sorts to give your mind some closure it will need to deal with this loss. Then move on with your life until your personal circumstances allow you to reenter this Porsche realm only a few can possibly understand. Make sure you pass on this site to the new owner of your 911 so we can keep tabs on it.

Trust me when I say that I won't be going anywhere... you have no idea how emotional this has been for me.

The car probably won't sell anytime soon.
I have very little faith in the market right now.

I will still rely on the PP board for most of my work day entertainment. So, I won't be going anywhere even if the car sells.

So, don't act like i'm going anywhere.

:)

Good luck with the sale and this next exciting phase of your life. Cars come and go. Do what you gotta do.

You'll be back when the time is right. Best wishes.

You know, Lee, if I had posted an identical topic, I would be thrilled to get two replies. Three pages? What a guy!

If I had to choose between a house and a Porsche, I'd choose the house in a heartbeat. Homes can be a tremendous source of enjoyment, just like Porsches. It's a great feeling working out in the yard together on a project or sitting and appreciating a tree you just planted.

Congrats on finding the right lady!

Hey, no sweat...all ya gotta do to gain the respect Leland has here is to be a nice, but funny & bright young man...oh, and go play with bombs in a damned foreign sandbox immediately after 9-11-01. You'd get many responses too. :) Lee, I hope you check in here & check your PM's...My email is still down. I gave you an email address...a young air force reservist who may be interested...We were talking about you in a pool hall today, but don't tell Erin..;)

Here's a different perspective for you: my wife just saw this thread and wondered how the leader of the SCWDP can possibly be selling his car and said there has to be a way they can make it work - how about selling the engagement ring?

Best of luck but please don't go over to the dark side and return in a 3.2.

Leland:

Man, I hate to see you go from the flock, even if it is temporary (it IS temporary!!)

But it sound sliek you'll still be around, so we'll have to keep an eye out for a suitable replacement for you. If it worked for nostatic, it will work for anyone!

Please don't be a stranger, and anytime you want a ride and your in Ohio, look me up!!

Chuck

Lee, what we're saying here? Even if you decide to be without Porsche, don't leave us...we'd miss you.

All Hail The Chief. Thanks for your insperation, courage and support to this board and all of us who gained from your project. Just remember, if you have a dream you have everything.

enjoy your 'intensity' and humor. don't be a stranger. loved yout 101 tips. i'm still assessing the results of the addition of metal shavings to the oil . . .

todd
=-=-=-=-=-
96 cpe

Leland, you've contributed a ton to this board and I really enjoyed your engine rebuild writeups.
Colin

Ohhhhhhh, mannnnnnnnnn!!!
The Pateman has left the building.

I have a tear in my eye.
I really want to let you know that you bring alot to this board and I believe that i can speak for everyone that your backlash to all un SC owners will nopt be forgotten and that we, the proud SCWDP members will not let our leader down.http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat5.gif[/img]

By the way how much did you want for your wheels?:p [img]

Good decision mate.......I'm sure you've done the right thing.

Time to join the Porsche-less massive
;)

wow, i've been away for a while and just thought i'd pop in for a quick read and never thought i would see this.

you gotta do what you gotta do....

Lee.. I been through exactly the same situation.. when my wife and I started out we made allot of sacrifices. Selling off My toys one by one saving every extra penny till we we able to meet our goals "The Home" and "The Kids" Three to be exact.. and then the Dog.. All in all life has been good..We have been blessed.
What your doing is showing your commitment to your goals and devotion to your new wife and a long and prosperous life together. I have no doubt that life will be good to you as long as you stay focused. And as for the P-Car.. you will again achieve ownership. Who ever the lucky person is that acquires your pride and joy will be very fortunate.


Jorge (Targa Dude):cool:

PS..Hurry back

Re: The Founder Must Part Ways
 

I never gave you the right to sell my car for me.....

I've been reading this thread for the past few days. You put a lot of work in the SC, but it is only a car. Stick around and keep up the humorous posts. There is always another P-car, but a good woman rarely comes around and your lucky if you even notice her.

BTW, are you sure this isn't some sort of covert opperation . . . ya I'm selling the SC . . . confuse the enemy into believing your not a threat, then when they aren't looking . . .

Well man I got my car after my wife left me and trust me I'd much rather be in your shoes. A good woman is hard to find. Crap, did I just say that? I need to put my bitter divorced face back on. Maybe you'll get stationed out here with me and you can have my Carrera when I'm deployed... which is like every other month. That is, if you would stoop to drive the thing :) Good luck brother, if you need anything let me know. You've got my work email.

Capt "c"

SC or not . . .
 

Leland,

SC or not you will always be one of us. And I echo the sentiments of those above who prophesy that you will be back in the fold someday. . .

If you're ever in New York let's be sure and stop by McSorley's again. . .

JFC

Really, really...REALLY glad you're going to stay with us.

BTW, I think you have a blindingly bright future. You seem to cover all the bases. You surely have not missed the following observation, but just in case......

Real estate is where it's at, investment wise. Here's why: For a little money down (5%, let's say, and don't try to lower payments by increasing this figure), you can borrow a huge amount of money and you get to keep ALL the increase in value over time. So, you lay down $5,000, buy something worth $100,000. At 10% appreciation (real estate rarely loses value....they're not making any more of it), in six years your investment is worth $177,000 (compounded). At 5% appreciation, it becomes $134,000. Recall that your initial investment was $5,000. Now THAT's the American way. And you write off all the interest to boot!

Just remember, location, location, location. Don't know what Boise's economic prosects are, but I know a little about its recent history. There are people retiring there, younger than I. My brother in law is one of them (Hugo's Deli). He's in his mid-thirties and retiring to Arizona.

Again, I don't lose much sleep worrying about Leland Pate. Just trying to be helpful/supportive.

Bummer, but a smart move.

Witha baby due anythime, I might be going down the same road..

Bill

B Siple---Don't DO IT!!!!

That cab will provide some much needed relief when you want it most. Trust me on this one!! Keep the cab!! This post coming from first hand experience!

My kid is now 3, love her to death, but man every now and then--gotta crank up the ol' oil dripper and let her rip. Alone!!!

Selling my irreplaceable Carrera 2.7 is something I'm starting to contemplate on a regular basis as my girlfriend -- at no fault of her own -- gives me a new reason to marry her each week.

I don't need to sell my car to buy an engagement ring, but I don't see how we, as a married couple, could get off to a good start in an expensive city when my car will need new race tires and a valve adjustment every three months. You see, I can't own my car and not race it. No, it's not possible; it's too late. And then there's the possibility of a nasty shunt riding shotgun with me each time I pay my $100 for 15 laps of mind-cleansing, insurance-annulling fun. And the cost to fix my car after a hitting an armco ass-first? No man can say!

Of course, I may get to make my cult TV series -- or my "American Graffiti" -- before the union, in which case I'll be able to race my Carrera and build my 1973 RSR replica while spending evenings embroiled in culinary experiments and showering my irreplaceable wife with affection.

But the reality is that I may have to sell my irreplaceable car (only 18 were delivered to Australia in 1974) to make sure that financial strain doesn't put irreversible pressure on our relationship, thus denying me the one person who inspires me more than anyone ever has.

Leland, at least your SC is replaceable. ;)

Best of luck to you and your wife.


Matt Holcomb
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I feel your pain , I sold my 55 chev convertible that my dad gave me to get a start after we were married ,not a day passed where I didn't think of that car ,but now in hindsight we are way ahead and that gives me some options I might not of had if I kept the car, good luck , good choice.

Lee,

You will have another 911. I hope it comes sooner than later! See Ya, Mark (the original registered sniper)

Well, I'm probably the last one on this board to understand what you're doing... but you seem like your head is screwed on straight. Best of luck to you, mate.

Think twice about selling (as if you haven't already!). Once it's gone and as time goes on it gets easier and easier to make excuses not to buy another - i.e. a new house to buy, a kid, a business to buy, a different house to buy, another kid, another business, etc., etc., etc. Ask me how I know. It was nearly 15 years in between for me before I convinced myself I NEEDED to have a 911 in my life. That's way too long. -- Curt

Leland:

I understand the need for making sacrifices and I wish you the best with your bride. However,m you seem to have a whole lot of other vehicles you could get rid of. The SC is the most usable and fun of the whole lot. It is also easy on gas, reliable, won't depreciate like that gas guzzling truck. Roof racks aren't exactly made for Targas, but with your imagination you could surely devise something to make those trips to home depot. In my case, I am contemplating another summer of 120 degree temps. I am very reluctant to park the old 911 in favor of a dual air 928 even though the S4 is priced about the same as a 20 year old beater beetle. Oh, the last chick that said she wanted to be my wife so that she could tell me to sell my collection made me realize why I like being single. Maybe I'll find a woman who enjoys the old P cars as much as I do and until then its play the field!

Bummer Leland :(

However, it is for your married life (favourite topic of my own right now) and I can't think of a better reason :D. I'll be married in 6 months (less now :o) and I'm going to have to assess selling the '75. Anna says no - enjoy it, but we might need to sell. However, I have decided I don't care how much we need the money - I'm being buried with the '69 (easy to say now - we don't need the money!). It isn't easy, huh?

Are you keeping the BMW? Come over to the BMW board too, then post a semi off-topic here to try find the answer when no-one knows it in 2002 wasteland... it is like the best of both worlds???

Pussies!

My 911 was my present to me AFTER I got married.

Ther're will always be another car. If you're ever in the Nor-Cal area and feeling the need for Porsche, just stop on by and you can take one for a spin.

How can I not join the gang in bidding farewell. I do not know the cause of the departure, but from a marriage perspective I raised three children and for the past twenty five years each has spent a whole heck of a lot of rear seat time between the 911's and 944's despite my wifes outcry to GROW UP!! Never heard more fun coming from a back seat in my life! Their was a time tho that the Porsches had to be parked and I had to engauge more husbandly responsibilities. Fortunately my wife never argued about my need for driving pleasure and Porsche answers that desire.

I GUARANTEE you Lee that you will miss the Porsche, because it creeps into your soul and damn it, just makes you feel good. Personally, I would get rid of the other vehicles and stay with the P-car. After all its the only one that will really holds its value.

Best wishes in whatever endeavor you pursue.
It was a great pleasure learning from your example.

SSGT Robert Rose
8th Aerial Port, Detachment One
Vung Tau, Vietnam (1968-1969)

SmileWavy

Everyday my son gets a ride to and from school in the SC. Not a bad way for a kindergartener to start and end the day. And it's cool for him too :)

But a man's gotta do...

John, did you ever marry the right girl! (underline "you")

:D

I guess I (like Sunroof) was blessed with a wife that understands the male psyche(sp?). I owned 5 motorcycles before the wedding and rode each one like there was "no tomorrow". She decided that there was in fact going to be a whole lot of tomorrows.... The compromise was what I have now. I'm so glad I have the P-car, I wouldn't swap it now for any of the bikes I owned.

Good luck Lee, and to the other guys contemplating marriage. There is no question that you spouse comes first, but a man needs an outlet and I'm guessing everyone on this board is here 'cause for us it's the indescribable passion and satisfaction that comes from owning/driving one of these cars. My wife got to know me for those few months between "toys" and learned very rapidly that DVD/Cable/Scaletrix/Playstation/beer/fishing still doesn't quite satisfy! Well maybe enough beer would have been an adequate surrogate.....

Nope, not even beer...whenever I think of selling the P-car, Cindy reminds me that I was a real SOB to live with during the 6 months she was around when I was "between cars".... and then she begs me not to sell...