any tips for driving out pin on clutch helper arm ?

[theiceman]

pretty straight forward question

For those of you following my clutch cable saga I had a missing seal above the clutch helper arm go " missing" , water got down and seized the arm on the cross shaft.

got it un-seized, I just need to get the arm off so I can put the seal on and some grease on the shaft . that pin is tight , cant seem to get it to budge. using a steel punch and 5 pound sledge but admittedly cant get much swing action under the car on jack stands, was going over to my buddies lift but just thought id try it first .

Not sure if getting a torch up there is such a good idea but maybe for a few seconds it would be okay ?

[will hung]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I spend probably a day, maybe 2 trying to hammer that pin out while laying under my car. The issue I ran into is that you'd work the pin so far out, then due to the curve of the gearbox for the diff, your punch would be at an awkward angle which would result in your punch just hitting the walls of the hole in the shaft. So I just progressively used shorter and shorter punches until I ran around the house looking for hardened nails to be used as punches.

[proporsche]

Hi..no problem using the hammer but you need the space to do it right.Wait until you get to your friends shop.Also use the heat it will help, just don`t melt it together...;-)

Ivan

[theiceman]

Thanks Ivan that's what I was thinking. yes Will I pictured that too .. or get 3/4 of the way out and the pin hit the exhaust ... NOW your screwed lol

[proporsche]

I f i remember ..yes you will hit the crossover pipe but do not worry, once you get it going it will go.But remember in your case you can already move the arm so the angle is changeable..

Ivan

[john walker's workshop]

Air hammer and a pointed bit to get it moving. Punch and hammer to finish. Face shield.

[theiceman]

Thanks John .. I think I need to make my pointed bit more pointed as it jumps around all over the place.

[Peter Zimmermann]

Ice; as you've discovered, that pin is a bi**h! Get the car up on a hoist, use a bit of heat, and give yourself some room to use the hammer. Wear eye protection! I found a flat-ended pin punch, about 4mm, maybe 5mm (it's been a heckuva long time since I did that job) worked best for me (hold the punch with a vise-grip). Use a hammer that is a different material than your punch (steel punch - brass hammer); that will reduce the amount of bounce back.

[theiceman]

Originally Posted by Peter Zimmermann

Ice; as you've discovered, that pin is a bi**h! Get the car up on a hoist, use a bit of heat, and give yourself some room to use the hammer. Wear eye protection! I found a flat-ended pin punch, about 4mm, maybe 5mm (it's been a heckuva long time since I did that job) worked best for me (hold the punch with a vise-grip). Use a hammer that is a different material than your punch (steel punch - brass hammer); that will reduce the amount of bounce back.

lol so true Pete .. after an hour or so last night I gave up with it on my jack Stands.

I got myself a nice set of SSIs and a Dansk muffler and old oil style lines. I think I will go to my buddies , take the old exhaust off and that will be the time to get that pin out. While its up on his hoist.

definitely a challenging Job

[proporsche]

I have fait in you ..you can make it;-)

Ivan

[franklinstower]

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop

Air hammer and a pointed bit to get it moving. Punch and hammer to finish. Face shield.

exactly. 5 minute job with pointy air hammer bit.

[john walker's workshop]

Then leave the pin out.

[theiceman]

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop

Then leave the pin out.

are you kidding ? if I get it out its getting its own frame and going on my wall of fame !!

[proporsche]

yup iceman ..as i said in the other post

Originally Posted by proporsche View Post
Just one thing..do not put the pin back, it has no use..Just lubricate the shaft with a lot of Bosch grease or Sachs grease nowadays...also do not forget to get those seals for up on the arm and between the arm and the little finger

Ivan

[theiceman]

Originally Posted by proporsche

yup iceman ..as i said in the other post

Originally Posted by proporsche View Post
Just one thing..do not put the pin back, it has no use..Just lubricate the shaft with a lot of Bosch grease or Sachs grease nowadays...also do not forget to get those seals for up on the arm and between the arm and the little finger

Ivan

yeah Ivan I did see , sorry for the misunderstanding , I meant not only was I not putting it back in , I was framing the thing !!

[proporsche]

I just realized you are the guy with the hockey stick in the engine right??

Ivan

[theiceman]

lol yup

[proporsche]

funny hockey is part of my live since 8 year old;-)

[theiceman]

well.. unless you think that guy is an a-hole ... then no !!

but that avatar has followed me forever

[proporsche]

did not quite understand about the a hole??;-)You play hockey or not?