Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 709
Catalytic Converter needed or required?

All,
I am seriously looking at a 1985 -911 Coupe. The car had it Catalytic Converter removed by it's 2nd owner and cannot be found by it's current owner(#3). I live in SC , so there are no emissions testing, vehicle inspections, etc.

By going through with the deal-I do not see any issue (no state law or smog testing) -but let me know any repercussions to the car performance by not having one, pretty sure there is none-just wanted to pass it by this group. Thanks

Old 09-25-2017, 05:26 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Kind of Blue
 
MrBonus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Delaware
Posts: 2,312
It will be louder and it will smell a bit.
__________________
1971 911T w/ a 2.7 (ITBs, EFI, a bunch of other stuff, 2180 pounds with fuel)
2024 Ford Bronco Raptor
Old 09-25-2017, 05:53 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Carlos, CA US
Posts: 5,523
It will smell a lot. And you will be contributing to the warming climate but hey, you don't live in a flood zone so you won't be paying the price of a flood. The Miami and Houston people will.
__________________
Porsche 2005 GT3, 2006 997S with bore-scoring
Exotic: Ferrari F360F1 TDF, Ferrari 328 GTS
Disposable Car: BMW 530xiT, 2008 Mini Cooper S
Two-wheel art: Ducati 907IE, Ducati 851
Old 09-25-2017, 06:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Vulnerari Praesidio
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 5,006
It does not smell a lot. The car will smell like an air cooled 911 should. The car will definitely be louder.

And Charleston is definitely in a flood zone. There is a reason it is called the "Low Country".
__________________
"Wisdom is knowing what to do next; virtue is doing it."
- David Starr Jordan
Old 09-25-2017, 06:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
KOH KOH is online now
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Monmouth County, NJ
Posts: 137
For whatever it's worth, I put a 100-cell Dansk cat on my 87. The car runs much better than it did with the original cat. No gas smell.
__________________
'87 Carrera, Granite Green, SW Chip, Dansk sport cat, Kuehl A/C
Old 09-25-2017, 08:05 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Posts: 723
My 911 hasn't had a cat on it for years. I don't notice a heavy smell, but you can always find another one used and slap it on there very easily. And Charleston is definitely a flood zone...
Old 09-25-2017, 08:23 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
Registered
 
SCadaddle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 2,354
I've been running a "gutted cat" (long story on that) for years on my '82 SC that has a functioning Lambda system/O2 sensor with the CIS tuned to 0.9 CO as per spec and it's no more noxious than one with a cat. Louder, probably.
Old 09-25-2017, 08:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 260
Any car enthusiast that says a car "smells" once doing a performance modification should find another hobby. smells like burnt hydrocarbons which is flower scent to my nose.

BTW i have a bypass and M&K single in single out, Love it and really opened up the top end RPM band!
Old 09-25-2017, 09:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
universeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Lone Star State
Posts: 1,391
Garage
It smells a little self-righteous in here. Pretty easy to run the car with or without cat. Definite performance boost and will add a bit to the gas smell of the exhaust.
__________________
Jason - Austin, TX
82 911 SC targa (gone, but not forgotten)
92 968 coupe
Old 09-25-2017, 09:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Spiderman
 
Jesse16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Burlington, NC
Posts: 1,684
Garage
I never noticed anything performance or smell wise by removing my damaged old one from my 87 and replaced with M&K Pre-Muffler. Just a bit more space by the left rear wheel. It is definitely louder.
Our cars are not "ULEV's" by anyone's imagination. We're also such a small group driving so few miles we should be ignored.
__________________
Midnight Blue 08 Cayman S, Fun/Track
Black 12 VW-GTI, work
Mexico Blue 87 Carrera, sold, sad, not enough garage space.
Old 09-25-2017, 10:04 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Carlos, CA US
Posts: 5,523
It does not smell bad if you are the driver. But, everybody else behind you will disagree.
__________________
Porsche 2005 GT3, 2006 997S with bore-scoring
Exotic: Ferrari F360F1 TDF, Ferrari 328 GTS
Disposable Car: BMW 530xiT, 2008 Mini Cooper S
Two-wheel art: Ducati 907IE, Ducati 851
Old 09-25-2017, 10:15 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,254
Quote:
Originally Posted by yelcab1 View Post
It will smell a lot. And you will be contributing to the warming climate but hey, you don't live in a flood zone so you won't be paying the price of a flood. The Miami and Houston people will.
LOL!!!

The amount of pollution that every car has put out in the entire world, since cars were invented... equals to about .00012% of the earth's ozone layer. Or to put it in layman's terms... if you took ALL the pollution from every single car and directed it at the same exact spot in the very upper atmosphere... it could create a hole the size of... a marble. A very small marble.

If you don't believe me... look it up...
"Vehicle emissions contain few chlorine- or bromine-heavy substances, and therefore have little effect on ozone depletion"
__________________
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe
Old 09-25-2017, 10:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 56
I don't have a catalytic converter in my car and it smells. I don't mind it but other people might disagree, especially people who don't know too much about cars but think they do.
Old 09-25-2017, 10:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: GA
Posts: 919
The 35 year old cats on most of them don't work anyway .
Old 09-25-2017, 04:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 709
Thanks for the input- PPI will determine if I go forward with the purchase
Old 09-26-2017, 05:20 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Vintage Owner
 
Jack Stands's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Posts: 1,929
Garage
It certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if the rest of the PPI is good. You can always install one if desired.
__________________
84 Targa (sold)
70 914-6 (sold)
73 914-6 2.7 conversion (sold)
75 GMC Motorhome (sold)
2016 Cayenne
Old 09-26-2017, 06:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 709
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Stands View Post
It certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if the rest of the PPI is good. You can always install one if desired.
Jack - absolutely it's not a deal breaker at all- just wanted input as to its impact if not equipped, the available of them is found on all major Porsche online sites.
Old 09-26-2017, 06:43 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Chain fence eating turbo
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 9,133
Quote:
Originally Posted by yelcab1 View Post
It will smell a lot. And you will be contributing to the warming climate but hey, you don't live in a flood zone so you won't be paying the price of a flood. The Miami and Houston people will.
It would only smell bad if it's not properly tuned
Old 09-26-2017, 06:46 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Carlos, CA US
Posts: 5,523
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippy View Post
It would only smell bad if it's not properly tuned
And you keep believing that until you ask yourself why they invented it in the first place?
__________________
Porsche 2005 GT3, 2006 997S with bore-scoring
Exotic: Ferrari F360F1 TDF, Ferrari 328 GTS
Disposable Car: BMW 530xiT, 2008 Mini Cooper S
Two-wheel art: Ducati 907IE, Ducati 851
Old 09-26-2017, 07:29 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Caveman Hammer Mechanic
 
ClickClickBoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Boulder Creek CA
Posts: 3,444
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by yelcab1 View Post
And you keep believing that until you ask yourself why they invented it in the first place?
Please elaborate, need deets!

__________________
1984 Carrera El Chupacabra
1974 Toyota FJ40 Turbo Diesel
"Easy, easy, this car is just the right amount of chitty"
"America is all about speed. Hot,nasty, bad ass speed."
Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936
Old 09-26-2017, 07:53 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:47 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.