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RyanWay 10-08-2017 10:16 AM

Going around in circles with 16x7 RE11 tire sizes
 
There are lots of posts lots of info but few combinations of like brands that work.

I have 16x7 and 16x8 fuchs. I have already decided on 245/45/16 RE11s for the rear.

I have rolled fenders and bilsteins and from what I can tell good bushings.

Should I go with 205/45/16 205/55/16 or 225/45/16 or 205/50/16 for the front if I am buying RE11for the front as well.

Bridgestone has a $70 rebate if you buy 4 today btw.

Thanks!

Ryan

kenikh 10-08-2017 10:17 AM

Can't recommend 245 on an 8. I have 205 on my 7s, 225 on my 8s and 245 on my 9s.

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kjchristopher 10-08-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 9768135)
Can't recommend 245 on an 8. I have 205 on my 7s, 225 on my 8s and 245 on my 9s.

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Agreed. If you’re going for performance, that’s too much tire in most cases. The 205/225 plan is a better one.

NY65912 10-08-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 9768135)
Can't recommend 245 on an 8. I have 205 on my 7s, 225 on my 8s and 245 on my 9s.

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What he said

kenikh 10-08-2017 10:37 AM

245s bulge terribly on an 8. If you're drag racing, it is OK. For cornering, not so much.

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RyanWay 10-08-2017 10:58 AM

Thanks for the quick responses!

So 7-8mm spacers and 225 50 or 45 for the rear then? 205/55 50 or 45 for the front?

needspeed 10-08-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanWay (Post 9768201)
Thanks for the quick responses!

So 7-8mm spacers and 225 50 or 45 for the rear then? 205/55 50 or 45 for the front?

I have 225/50 on my 16x8s.

Bill Verburg 10-08-2017 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanWay (Post 9768134)
There are lots of posts lots of info but few combinations of like brands that work.

I have 16x7 and 16x8 fuchs. I have already decided on 245/45/16 RE11s for the rear.

I have rolled fenders and bilsteins and from what I can tell good bushings.

Should I go with 205/45/16 205/55/16 or 225/45/16 or 205/50/16 for the front if I am buying RE11for the front as well.

Bridgestone has a $70 rebate if you buy 4 today btw.

Thanks!

Ryan

depends on what you are looking for

I assume that ultimate grip isn't the main priority else RE71R would be your choice.

So 245/45 though better on a 9 is ok on an 8. section width on a 9 is ~10"(254mm) on an 8 it is ~9.6"(244mm). Tread width of course stays the same and there is a very minor change in OD, not enough to worry about. You'd get a bit more grip from this tire on a 9 than on an 8.

I don't believe that R 11 is available in a 205/50x16 or 225/45 x16size

Matching front on a 7 could be 205/45 or 205/55. Each has + & -
/45: avoids and clearance issue due to shortness but optics are a bit odd due to the same shortness OD is ~23.2" compared top 245 OD of 24.7"

/55: @ 24.9" OD a good match for 245's 24.7" OD, On lowered cars there can sometimes be some lip interference but it's not likely for most especially w/ rolled fenders and more stockish ride height.

You'll get about the same grip from either version 205

225/50 could fit on the 7s but there is a far greater likely hood of interference

dwelle 10-08-2017 02:52 PM

i run 225 and 245 RE11's on 7&8x16's on my 914. they are wide, but don't bulge terribly. handling is lights out, but that car is really set up and obviously not a 911.

pics for reference...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1507502892.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1507502935.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1507503052.jpg

McLovin 10-08-2017 03:19 PM

for your fronts go with 205/55 16, like the factory did

kenikh 10-08-2017 04:24 PM

245s on 8s look much better than I expected. I do prefer the 205 fronts for lighter steering.

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RyanWay 10-08-2017 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 9768312)
depends on what you are looking for

I assume that ultimate grip isn't the main priority else RE71R would be your choice.

So 245/45 though better on a 9 is ok on an 8. section width on a 9 is ~10"(254mm) on an 8 it is ~9.6"(244mm). Tread width of course stays the same and there is a very minor change in OD, not enough to worry about. You'd get a bit more grip from this tire on a 9 than on an 8.

I don't believe that R 11 is available in a 205/50x16 or 225/45 x16size

Matching front on a 7 could be 205/45 or 205/55. Each has + & -
/45: avoids and clearance issue due to shortness but optics are a bit odd due to the same shortness OD is ~23.2" compared top 245 OD of 24.7"

/55: @ 24.9" OD a good match for 245's 24.7" OD, On lowered cars there can sometimes be some lip interference but it's not likely for most especially w/ rolled fenders and more stockish ride height.

You'll get about the same grip from either version 205

225/50 could fit on the 7s but there is a far greater likely hood of interference


I did not even consider the 71Rs since they did not come in the 245 and I wanted the "big ass/RSR" look for the rears. The Re71 don't come in a 245 so these would have to be a 205/55 or 205/50 and 225/50 for the rears. For $500 shipped after rebate they do make a compelling case for value/grip even if they don't give me the look I was going for on Magnus's SC Stance Works - Magnus Walkers 78SCHR Budget Porsche 911SC Build

I'm aware he probably had camber plates. Thank you everyone for your input. I guess I'll pull the trigger once I know which fronts will go better on the car if I lower it to euro ride height.

Bill Verburg 10-09-2017 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanWay (Post 9768604)
I did not even consider the 71Rs since they did not come in the 245 and I wanted the "big ass/RSR" look for the rears. The Re71 don't come in a 245 so these would have to be a 205/55 or 205/50 and 225/50 for the rears. For $500 shipped after rebate they do make a compelling case for value/grip even if they don't give me the look I was going for on Magnus's SC Stance Works - Magnus Walkers 78SCHR Budget Porsche 911SC Build

I'm aware he probably had camber plates. Thank you everyone for your input. I guess I'll pull the trigger once I know which fronts will go better on the car if I lower it to euro ride height.

You have to remember that the wheel width affects the mounted tire section

225/50 x16 RE71 on an 8 has ~9.6" section width, 7.6" tread width, this is the max wheel width and results in the max performance of an outstandingly good tire
245/45 x16 RE11 on an 8 has ~9.6" section width, 9.1" tread width, the max wheel here is 9 which measures ~10" s/w & the same 9.1" t/w. Still a very good street tire but it just wont have the performance potential of the smaller 71

RyanWay 10-09-2017 07:23 AM

Ended up buying a set of RE71R 225/50 and 205/55 at simpletire.com After rebate they came to $471. Not bad. should I run a spacer in the back to fill the fender a bit better?

Bill Verburg 10-09-2017 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanWay (Post 9769089)
Ended up buying a set of RE71R 225/50 and 205/55 at simpletire.com After rebate they came to $471. Not bad. should I run a spacer in the back to fill the fender a bit better?

That's up to you, It does increase rear grip a bit which increases understeer, most do it for the optics

RyanWay 10-09-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 9769095)
That's up to you, It does increase rear grip a bit which increases understeer, most do it for the optics

I'm after a bit of both for now. (New and first time 911 owner)

-Ryan

Speed metal 10-09-2017 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwelle (Post 9768466)
i run 225 and 245 RE11's on 7&8x16's on my 914. they are wide, but don't bulge terribly. handling is lights out, but that car is really set up and obviously not a 911.

pics for reference...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1507502892.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1507502935.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1507503052.jpg

I run the exact same combo. Good stuff on 7&8s

darrin 10-10-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanWay (Post 9769089)
Ended up buying a set of RE71R 225/50 and 205/55 at simpletire.com After rebate they came to $471. Not bad. should I run a spacer in the back to fill the fender a bit better?

I'm quite happy with the visual improvement I realized when I switched from 16x7 to 16x8 rear fuchs (running 225/50-16 tires on both).

I suggest you start without spacers and see what you think -- super easy to add spacers later

RyanWay 10-10-2017 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrin (Post 9770772)
I'm quite happy with the visual improvement I realized when I switched from 16x7 to 16x8 rear fuchs (running 225/50-16 tires on both).

I suggest you start without spacers and see what you think -- super easy to add spacers later

Thanks Darrin!

enzoducoing 10-10-2017 11:10 AM

The RE11 are wider than the size suggests. This may be because they are somewhat "square" at the edges and not rounder like some other models. Because of this I would recommend the 205/55 at the front and 225 at the back


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