993's were not made in 2018
BUT NICE TRY, AND nice effort

No disrespect Ronnie but you are slightly missing the point. The reason the modern car vents are higher is because they are flowing more air.

I know you have got your vent temperature right down but if you had a powerful modern fan behind them, they would be higher.

That's why the vent temperature is kinda meaningless without the air flow/volume.

Perhaps One of YOU can call a 2018 new Porsche 911 Dealer and speak with the Service Manager Or Dealer Certified Mechanic at the dealership where 95 degrees ambient is a normal or higher for a simple verified temperature answer to my question !

I'm using an evaporator blower motor made for a 2002 Suburban (was in many SUVs and trucks from that era) - very powerful (no true air-flow data to compare to the stock motor, however), but overall flow seems limited by the size of the air ducting. I measure the super low vent temps with fan on its highest speed setting - always run it at high speed in very hot weather and/or during initial cool down, but can run it on lower speed setting in temps below 90, etc (a lot less noise then).

Bigger fans only help up to a point. The main issue is the factory evaporator has just a single 80mm outlet hose (3.1 inches) which is an area of just 7.5 inches squared.

Typical modern OEM AC blowers have an outlet of 20 inches squared, so you can see that they can exchange much more air, but the air spends less time in the evaporator hence they do not run as cold.

Our blower uses 3 X 60mm and 2 X 40mm outlets which gives 18 inches squared.

You know, if this were the approach one took in the workforce when designing a new product for a larger company, you would not have a job to come back to in no time flat. I'm sorry, I have been biting my tongue with this thread for quite a while but it is hard to take someone seriously or willingly want to help someone out who is blatantly asking for everyone else to do his or her own research for them while they sit back and attempt to turn a profit afterwards.

I'm not sure I quite understand why you cannot simply pick up the phone and make a call for yourself; after all, you live in one of the warmer states in the US. Granted, the winter season may not be the best time for you to acquire all this data that you are after. You have similar threads dating back as early as 2011 with the same claims, I find it hard to believe you have not made any progress on this venture nor have you not been able to collect the data you are after in that time frame.

Perhaps a different approach to the matter might help further your cause. Coming across as crass and rude to fellow members who all have the same passion and affinity for these cars will not put you on the right side of the line. Most of us are here to help one another and either improve, repair, restore, etc. these cars, but the willingness to reach out depends a lot on the attitude of the person in need. I know written word can often come across misconstrued by others, but a little bit of humbleness and gratitude can go a long way, not only on here, but in life in general.

I bet your evap housing & blower motor design kicks ass - would love to be able to check it out in a 911 sometime . . .

Ah, Reid. I know you are passionate about your designs. I develop some of the same feelings for the work I do. I believe it is your passion and enthusiasm that gets the better of you when you react to and disparage others. It detracts from your substantial work and efforts, and is beneath a man of your accomplishments and experience. Let them throw their sticks and stones, but don't lower yourself to their level. There are plenty of smart people out there and many contributions to be made.
Please keep up the good work you are doing, and give others the benefit of the doubt, even if they don't return the favor.
Good luck,
Dave

I make high quality early model 911 A/C products and respect these old cars and will not compromise my integrity!

Ok

Thanks Dave your right, but this guy was stupid to come into this thread, and open his mouth

I have studied his system its so bad his father should take him out to the wood shed

To the readers of this tread I have had to repair the damage to old 911's caused by too many people over the years shoddy work and damage from stupidity and it really pisses me off.

The tan swan 911 porsche carrera
 

Shoddy 911 A/C Work That took over a month of labor to properly repair just this part of the repair

These are only partial repair pictures of the whole repair and complete A/c NEW TECHNOLOGY MODERNIZATION

This 911 has my matched set PFC Front and Rear and when finished vent temps were in the 30s @ 95 degree's ambient; with many new 911 A/C innovations TO every part of the A/C SYSTEM

It took 4 months to complete the whole refit

THESE PICTURES ARE NOT THE FINISHED PICTURES THIS IS WORK IN PROGRESS PICTURES

This was the most complex 911 A/C JOB I have ever done; AND THE A/C GASES HAVE BEEN REVERSED SEQUENCED; TO THE FRONT PFC GETTING REFRIGERANT GASES FIRST THAN TO THE REAR PFC

The owners were very happy with the professional work done

THE 911 WHEN FINISHED HAS ONE OF THE MOST ADVANCED A/C SYSTEMS EVER DONE TO AN EARLY MODEL 911

The far right side bottom is over sized cabin evaporator return air inlet; The evaporate blower is a new invention twice the size of 0EM and twice the CFM OF AIR PRESSURE OR MORE

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This is a public forum, nobody 'owns' their thread or has any special rights over it.

I originally commented as what you are planning to do bears a strong resemblance to what we have done already (e.g. using the 997 condenser). I have not made any negative comments about you at all.

Anyone who viewed this thread yesterday would have seen the childish and unprofessional comments you made about me and my company's product. It then appears you asked a moderator to delete your own comments and also my response that quoted you.

What astounds me is that even after the moderator removed your post you CONTINUE to post more defamatory remarks in the same vein.

You have no direct experience of our product so please refrain on bad mouthing it.

But but he has pictures of a 1/10 finished installation of who knows what!!

Reid,


You have no integrity in this forum. All you have demonstrated is a childish behavior and an inconsiderate individual. You may know a lot about AC, but in my book you are nothing but a NUT! You need to see someone to help you. At some point you seem to be deranged and unstable. I pity you and hope you stay healthy.

Tony

Since 2011!

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As well as eliminating related posts demonstrating how furious other members were at his outburst. However it may have been a moderator on his own.

I am now engaged in this thread.

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Somebody needs to buy this guy a puppy. He needs a new hobby.

4 Months. I've had those projects too. Every time you get back from the Home Depot you realize you forgot something. So frustrating...


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