Value of a '75 911S (2.7L) engine?

[cowtown]

Hi guys,
I have a 2.7 engine that I want to unload throught the classifieds, but am running into the chicken-and-egg problem - I don't know what to ask for it, and buyers don't want to offer a price first.

Can anyone ballpark this engine for me?

180,XXX
Currently in the car and running.
I've also done a compression test on videotape: Compression 151-130-147-160-160-155
No exhaust system (I'm keeping the SSIs and sport muffler)
Carrera Tensioners
11 blade fan
Pop-off valve installed
K&N filter
6 New Injectors, new injector o-rings
Idle and mixture set two months ago
Exhaust guides replaced May 99
WUR has the mod to make it adjustable
New alternator
Leaks about two drops of oil per day. I have not tracked down the source of this leak

I don't have any information about head studs, so assume they're Dilivar. I'm going to check for broken ones but don't know about them yet.

I have no idea what the value of this thing is. Anyone want to throw out some numbers?
Thanks!

[Rot 911]

180,000 miles, more than a 10% difference between compression on one cylinder, another cylinder looks low, I'd say someone would be looking at a rebuild on this engine. Personally I doubt that I would pay $1,500 for this engine. Course that is just my opinion.

[IROC]

I just sold a 2.7 with compression between 155-164 on all cylinders, 65k miles, headers, blah, blah, blah that runs great (albeit with a stupid oil pressure problem that will probably result in a tear down - but the buyer knows that), for $1500. And I threw in a lot of extra parts.

Unfortunately, 2.7s are just not very easy to sell. Even though most of them are now good engines (having been rebuilt most likely by now), there is such a stigma associated with them that they don't fetch much money.

I would consider yourself lucky to get $1500. Good, running 2.7s with no problems (like your suspect compression numbers) can be had all day long for not much more....

Good luck,

Mike

[jluetjen]

Can anyone ballpark this engine for me?...

Actually -- from a negotiating perspective it doesn't matter. Sure -- make sure the buyer knows all the details. But the only impact that they have on the price is in the buyers mind.

Numerous negotiating experiments have shown that the agreed upon price is generally half-way between the two negotiators starting positions. So in many respects the first person to venture a proposed price will limit their side of the negotiation. So there is definitely a benefit to not be the first person to propose a price.

For example:
A) You're thinking $1500 while the buyer is figuring that it will take $1700 to buy the engine. You say $1500 and the buyer thinks to themselves: "What steal!" and responds "No - $1000". The final price: $1250.

B) Your thinking $1500 and the buyer is thinking $1200 tops. You say "$1500" and they buffer themselves and respond "Nah - $900". The final price: $1200.

And so on...

Here is what I've seen for closing prices on EBay for 2.7's:

Model....When....Price....Comments
2.7 + Turbo....3/11/01....$4,500.00....No bids
2.7....4/3/01....$3,000.00....No bids, relisted at $2500
74 2.7....4/11/00....$2,500.00....No Bids
2.7 w/ 3.0 Accessories....4/23/01....$1,395.00....
2.7....6/8/01....$2,602.00....
79 2.7 Engine....6/24/01....$6,101.00....New? 150 HP W' K-Jetronic and 915 tranny.
2.7 from '74....6/25/01....$760.00....w/ permatune CD ignition. No carbs, head studs turned
2.7 from '77....7/19/01....$1,575.00....
77 2.7....8/8/01....$2,600.00....Rebuilt within 1000 miles
2.7 S from '77....8/21/01....$1,505.00....Not run for 3 years, reserve not met
2.7....8/20/01....$3,701.00....Only 36K
2.7 longblock....8/26/01....$900.00....Reserve not met
2.7 longblock....8/27/01....$885.00....
2.7 S from '77....8/27/01....$2,100.00....
2.7 S from '77....9/3/01....$820.00....Reserve not met
2.7 from '75....9/5/01....$1,000.00....No bids
2.7 from '77....9/13/01....$1,000.00....No bids
2.7 from '75....9/13/01....$1,050.01....
2.7 longblock from '74....9/17/01....$900.00....Reserve not met
2.7 from '75....9/23/01....$1,626.00....Reserve not met
2.7 from '75....10/21/01....$1,025.00....Complete w/ injection, etc Reserve not met
2.7 from '75....1/3/02....$2,125.00....
2.7 built from 2.0....1/15/02....$2,700.00....including set-up for 6 solex or 1 4bbl
2.7 from '77....2/10/02....$1,999.00....w/ 2x Weber 40's. Reserve not met
2.7 from '77....2/11/02....$2,700.00....No bids
2.7 from a 2.0....2/19/02....$3,050.00....CIS Pistons, solex carbs, 260 HP???
2.7 from '75....3/2/02....$835.50....Less CIS
2.7 from '77....3/2/02....$1,025.03....Complete with CIS and exhaust. 1 pulled stud.
2.7 from '74....3/19/02....$850.00....Buy it now for 1500. Reserve not met
2.7 from '74....4/4/02....$1,100.00....Ended with BIN. With CIS, dizy and exhaust. Some Broken head studs.
2.7 Carrera from 75....4/13/02....$999.00....Serial # 6320323(4?) No bids.
2.7 from '74....4/20/02....$1,225.00....Loc compression in 1 cylinder, noticable knock.
2.7 from '74....5/5/02....$2,800.00....longblock
2.7RS....5/14/02....$1,500.00....No bids. Ended auction early - will sell for $4500.
2.7S from '76....6/1/02....$2,700.00....Reserve not met
2.7S from '76....6/10/02....$2,500.00....Fresh rebuild. No bids
2.7S from '77....6/23/02....$2,600.00....Longblock. Only 1 bidder
2.7 Longblock....9/6/02....$750.00....BIN: $850. No bids. Excludes cams, chain housings and rockers.
2.7 RS upgrade Longblock....9/6/02....$4,200.00....9.8:1 CR. 2.4 S heads.
2.7 from '74....9/7/02....$1,125.00....With transmission. Dismantled.
2.7S from '77....11/27/02....$1,500.00....No bids.
2.7 from '78....12/9/02....$4,500.00.... Reserve not met. With CIS.
2.7 S from '76....12/16/02....$760.00....$6000 Reserve not met. Rebuilt. SC exhaust.
2.7S from '75....12/23/02....$2,809.00....PAP sales.
2.7S from '76....12/25/02....$1,225.00....$6000 Reserve not met. Rebuilt.
2.7 from '77....1/6/03....$1,325.00....Resereve not met. 210 HP with CIS???
2.7S from '76....1/7/03....$1,000.00....No bids. Left timing chain cover let go and the the left rockers broke. Needs rockers, has new tensioners.
2.7S from '76....1/10/03....$500.00....No bids. Listed a $5000 reserve.

[cowtown]

Thanks for the feedback. I know these engines are not desireable, and I am going to fully disclose compresion, studs, etc... I just don't want to go way too high or low. I've got a better idea of what to ask for now.

Thanks!
Colin

[gregk1]

I paid $1800 for a RS spec 2.7 less carbs, built by Otto's in so cal

[bigchillcar]

John,
That's rather impressive 'feedback' if I do say so myself!
Ryan