Inheritance 911 Project

[Erbe_911]

Haven't gotten the car back yet, but I wanted to solicit feedback regarding lighting.

I think I'm going to stick with the sugar scoop look, it's grown on me and it keeps the car as it's always been. For headlights, I've heard that H5s (right?) drop right in without modification. Is that right? If so, what parts and tools are needed and is it an easy DIY for someone who's car wrenching days are largely behind them?

Secondly, tail lights. My '84 predates the CHMSL and since lighting on this car is limited and because people are generally morons, I'd like to evaluate improving the rear lighting. Does anyone make an aesthetically pleasing LED upgrade for the rear that can be installed without modifying wiring?


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[Rleog]

For LED lighting on an ‘84 Carrera, I’d look over offerings from “Spoke,”. Jerome Joseph. His web page: SpokeWorksLED.com

[Tremelune]

You can sometimes just use Philips red 1157 LEDs in the bulb socket (DOT legal, which is uncommon). I say almost because the lighting in these cars sometimes switches the power and ground for bulbs, and LEDs only work one way...

[Pedro '84 Coupe]

I bought the drop in H4 assemblies and bulbs for my 914 and the 911. I was happy with them. The only reason I upgraded to true H4 assemblies and ditched the sugar scoops on the 911 was because some brain-dead mouth breather (seriously, you should have seen and heard this guy) smashed my driver's fender. I got the drop-in H4s here https://www.busdepot.com/0301600118. Also added the JWest headlight relay kit.

For the tailights, LEDs are a great option but I chose instead to install a 3rd brake light made by Hella. Got that from Daniel Stern lighting (used the Model 37) https://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html. I can take a pic of it mounted on my car if you want.

Before the crash I was concerned about someone rear-ending my car so I added the 3rd brake light. After the wreck, I picked up several good tips from forum members that suggested daytime driving with the headlights on or better yet with the high beams. Too many distracted drivers and big trucks on the road so every little bit helps.

[darrin]

Originally Posted by Erbe_911

Haven't gotten the car back yet, but I wanted to solicit feedback regarding lighting.

I think I'm going to stick with the sugar scoop look, it's grown on me and it keeps the car as it's always been. For headlights, I've heard that H5s (right?) drop right in without modification. Is that right? If so, what parts and tools are needed and is it an easy DIY for someone who's car wrenching days are largely behind them?

Secondly, tail lights. My '84 predates the CHMSL and since lighting on this car is limited and because people are generally morons, I'd like to evaluate improving the rear lighting. Does anyone make an aesthetically pleasing LED upgrade for the rear that can be installed without modifying wiring?


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1) as Pedro indicated above, you want to use H4 headlights, not H5 -- the link he provided seems like a really good deal (make sure you also get bulbs -- if installing relays (which is a must, imo), go with the higher wattage 90/100 watt bulbs).

Installing them is pretty straightforward, remove the sugar scoop cover by unscrewing the screw on bottom front center, then remove the screw(s) holding retaining ring around the headlight into the assembly behind it. The one issue I ran into was that my retaining ring screws were rather corroded and ended up needing to be drilled out -- if you have trouble getting the retaining ring off, you can also remove the entire assembly by unscrewing the four screws that hold it into the headlight bucket to make things easier for you-- once the headlight is separated from the retainer/assembly, you simply unplug it, remove it and replace it with the new H4 headlight = the bulb connectors are the same as those on the sealed beam.

Once installed, the headlights will need to be aimed - good threads on this and again pretty straightforward to do with a flat parking lot and a wall

2) LED brake lights -- VERY happy customer of Spoke -- only have his LED brake lights right now, but they're NOTICABLY brighter than stock and easy to install w/o mods -- here's a link to the ones I purchased https://www.spokeworksled.com/product-page/911-brake-board-square-led-pattern-pair

[Erbe_911]

Seems like good progress has been made on getting the top to fit. The Euro shops my dad used to take the car to were, putting it mildly, budget places and I've since learned (to my financial chagrin) that they almost never did a good job.

The fiberglass will stay, but it'll be re-covered and they adjusted it to fit much more tightly. Wind noise and water tightness were horrible before and the vinyl was ~15 years old and completely shot.








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[Erbe_911]

The more important news from last week:



And to keep it car related, the Targa will be gaining a new Porsche aunt (her mom's unrestored 65k mile 1959 356 Convertible D, she daily drives a blacked out XF-S) and uncle (her dad's built-to-order 2019 Chalk over red Macan S).






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[darrin]

Congrats!!!!

[Pedro '84 Coupe]

Great news, man! Congratulations to both of you

[Erbe_911]

New speakers going in (covers to follow), fire extinguisher being mounted, and I believe we now have all the parts in from Germany to get this wrapped up.

Unfortunately the screwed up/bent booster rod seems to have weakened some seals in the master cylinder, which was replaced in '18, so that will probably need to be replaced AGAIN since it's weeping. Yay. -__-






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[911SauCy]

Fire extinguisher ^^^ Best investment yet

[Erbe_911]

It's back! Just over 2 years since we first got it on the road, the guys from Black Bridge handed the keys (now with Porsche crests!) back to me. COVID slowed down shipping but they still did a lot of work quickly.

The final, quite extensive hit-list was:

- ball joints
- shocks all around
- new ignition key module incl. new keys
- hood struts
- decklid struts
- replace brake booster
- replace master cylinder (again)
- shift linkage rebuild incl. knob replacement since it was seized on
- install new straps to hold the rear seat backs up
- buy and install H3R fire extinguisher
- figure out and repair why the battery is draining (turned out to be the frunk light wasn't turning off)
- plugs/wires/oil and filter change
- install new head unit and speakers, wired properly
- sorted out some decklid upholstery which was aging badly
- install new wiper blades
- refinish wheels
- repair headlight switch (half broken)
- refit and recover Targa top
- clean up and detail
- some other small incidental stuff they helped me out like re-seating the driver's door pocket

I've driven it maybe a mile and a half because I ran out to get it between meetings, but it drives completely differently and miles better. I've had so many miles with it all broken and crappy that I need to learn to drive it again, but needing more seat time in this car has never been a bad thing!






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[Pedro '84 Coupe]

Excellent! Should be good for another 30+ years

[4flyboy]

So pretty

[BobT]

Excellent! I have an 83SC targa in the same color, slate blue. Getting the car ready to eventually turn over to my son.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by Erbe_911

it drives completely differently and miles better. I've had so many miles with it all broken and crappy that I need to learn to drive it again,

How exactly does it drive so differently now ?
All you changed were ball joints and shocks?

[Erbe_911]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

How exactly does it drive so differently now ?
All you changed were ball joints and shocks?

Did you read the list? Lol.

The shocks made a huge difference in ride, handling, and steering feel. The shift linkage was completely shot so it shifts much more smoothly now. Previously the braking feel was inconsistent (even aside from the binding) and now its consistent and smooth. And the long-overdue tune up made it run better and seemed to free up a bit more power. Also there's less wind noise now since they adjusted the top. Basically every aspect of the car needed, and received, some help so the net change is substantial.


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