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Crankcase crack
I`ve jacked the car for some inspection (lots of oil leaks from different places) cleaned a bit engine and found this:
how bad it is and is it fixable? not to mention this "sealing"... Thanx in advance |
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What year is your car? Mag or Aluminum case?
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It's not uncommon for 911s to leak where the case halves meet. Someone tried to do a booger patch job to stop this one. First step is to clean that stuff off, and all the oil around it. Then let the car sit a day or so, and see if you can find where the leak originates. It might take longer than a day for the leak to be visible. If you still don't see it, start the car and let it run a bit. Don't drive it though. As soon as you do that, the oil will just go all over the place and you won't be able to tell where it's coming from.
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The photo of the crack did not download. As far as the above photo looks like a 3 year old tried to
seal the case with aqua fresh toothpaste. Cracks can be tig welded I would pull the motor and go through it anyway. Looks like the former owner or whoever worked on the car wasn't very swift. |
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Looks like you have leaking coming down from higher up on the engine as well. I’d also recommend removing the goop, cleaning the engine, and seeing where it’s leaking.
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motor recently rebuilt? Looks a little clean (besides the rtv and oil). When i did my rebuild by myself in a cold garage during the dead of winter....a lone gray beard hair fell off my chin and into the sealant on the two case halves just before I bolted them together. I can still see the hair sticking out if i look for it. Its a very small leak so not worth fixing. Plus, my DNA is forever with the engine now. Fitting for something that was almost religious in nature. I enjoyed rebuilding that motor so much I almost want to do it over again now.
If you clean all that off really well with about 5 cans of brake cleaner and an air compressor, then you can add a few ounces of dye to the oil and run the engine and look with a black light for the first signs of the dye to really pin point the source.
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also, if there is a crack in that picture, i can't see it. Can you use a program to add a red arrow pointing to it or something to make it more obvious?
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Very often people confuse the casting marks/lines for cracks. They rarely are cracked.
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I don't see any cracks either. I do see a leaking oil return tube.
I can't imagine that blue goop is doing much good.
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That is not a crack it is a mating surface from which oil may or may not be seeping. What you are going through is common for many on the BBS - the advice above is pretty much how we start figuring out where the oil is coming from in an effort to reach a leak free engine.
Clean it up as advised, then make a list of regular oil weep points (Triangle of Death; Oil Return Tubes; Valve covers, etc.) then check each one while looking for others. Good luck!
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on a side note... doesn't Wayne's book recommend covering up that 'circled area' with some JB Weld???
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No I don't think so. It may look like one, but I really doubt it is one. Looks like oil that was in a casting mark that has now seeped through the cheesy silver paint put on the block. The block looks painted to me...
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