The Carnage. Don't look if you don't like ugly.

Zeke · 08-07-2003, 06:22 PM

Some people say I'm acting a little pissy these days. You wonder why?

Poor-sche Lover · Poor-sche Lover's Garage

Yes, I may be a moron, but what the hell happened?

M. Hendrix · 08-07-2003, 06:53 PM

Well, Milt used butter instead of Pam to cook with.

Sorry Milt, that hurts.

M

Zeke · 08-07-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Poor-sche Lover
Yes, I may be a moron, but what the hell happened?

Hell, you're not the moron, I am!

You just missed the first report: Motor is roasty toasty.
Anyway, it's exactly what I suspected. Pretty sure on the fuel starvation theory. That and lean and too hot of a day.

914GT · 08-07-2003, 07:30 PM

It's illegal to possess shuttle debris ...

John Rogers · 08-07-2003, 07:34 PM

Well Milt you are getting there, but I've done worse!!!!! (That's why I finally put in a six!)

sean_V8_914 · sean_V8_914's Garage

Holley makes a sweet fuel pump. blue or red, one puts out greater volume. Summit racing sells them. i fed my big block Camaro with a blue
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=search.asp&type=bykeyword&searchtype=both&part=holley+fuel+pump&x=11&y=9

J P Stein · 11:22 PM

OK.OK, you were right.....melted the sucker, near as I can see...or detonated off the piston down to the first ring land.

M. Hendrix · 08-08-2003, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 914GT
It's illegal to possess shuttle debris ...

uhh.. l o l..

M

Scooter311 · 08-08-2003, 04:43 AM

Holley red - swap meet, 30 bucks. Rotary sound is cool when you first turn the key, too. More funny looks at the gas station.
You all know that though

Mr9146 · 08-08-2003, 07:57 AM

Save yourself a headache and just pop for a six. In the long run it will be cheaper to build a high compression 2.2S with Webbers now, than rebuild that four-banger a couple more times ... which you know you'll end up doing.

Besides, you've got more wiggle room with a six.

Zeke · 08-08-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Mr9146
Save yourself a headache and just pop for a six. In the long run it will be cheaper to build a high compression 2.2S with Webbers now, than rebuild that four-banger a couple more times ... which you know you'll end up doing.

Besides, you've got more wiggle room with a six.

Really. At $6000+ for a high compression rebuild, a grand for a core and about $3000 for the ancillary stuff like exhaust, sheet metal, flywheel, motor mount, oil tank and plumbing and another $1000 for MFI or Webers and you're going to tell me that I will save money over 2 more rebuilds? Unless you are contributing some of the components at much less than market prices, it can't be done. I think you are grossly misinformed. I had a six on the pallet right next to the car until I found out how nuch it was going to cost for a conversion. I'll sell the car before Im gonna throw another $10,000 at it.

BTW, the replacement piston is $45.00. A set of rings are $38. And a set of gaskets is $35. Shop labor for rehone, balance the new piston to the others and even drill and tap the oil galleys so I can make sure they are clean is all about $150. Double the cost of everything just to cover any contingencies, and you're at about $ 530. A six..........my ,my.

And what if I lunched the six? You think $500 is going to get me anywhere?

John Rogers · 08-08-2003, 04:46 PM

Milt is right, none of this is cheap and to do a six conversion into a race car is not a small task even if you do it yourself as he could do. With my car I still had to relocate the dry sump tank, relocate the remote oil filter, get several new braided oil lines, etc. I was lucky and found a built up racing engine that was too small for the owner and got it for a good price and he took all the carnage from the blown four for parts so I am not too bad off. Good luck with it.

Zeke · 08-08-2003, 07:10 PM

A closer look for the masochists in the group.

Ron Meier · 08-09-2003, 08:00 PM

It's meltdown time at the ol' race track. We vaporize aluminum at a nominal exhaust. Anybdy behind you suffer from Alzheimers now?

Zeke · 08-09-2003, 08:15 PM

I don't know, I can't remember who was behind me.

woodman · 08-09-2003, 08:39 PM

Milt,
Really bummed for you man. Saw George the other day and said you were in. What's the plan of attack?

bernbomb914 · bernbomb914's Garage

milt I bought EGT analyzer guage with 4 leads for my Motorhome (4 engines) that would work on your motor so you could see your fuel mixture on the go. aircraft quality $149.95 @ aircraft spruce & speciality Co in Corona.

Bernie

Zeke · 08-10-2003, 07:26 AM

I'll say this about lots of guages. You better have your setup close enough to survive when you get to the track. You can make small adjustments between seesions. Otherwise, you don't have no frcikin' time to be looking at guages and thinking about what you see. You be plenty busy jsut drivin'. I look up in the mirror on any short straights and on the long ones maybe get a chance to glance at guages if no one is on my tail.

bernbomb914 · bernbomb914's Garage

I would think you would dial in your set up before you go racing with a test session where you can give your guages some attention? we used tpo have the driver run a hard lap then coast in so we could read the plugs, but that was before you had all this equipment.

Bernie