closing a thread, 1st amendment and censorship

[sean_V8_914]

ya'll closed the thread because you dont like what someone has to say? the guy is hiding because people threatened him Mike Tyson style. somebody wants to eat his dog. If I express veiws contrary to the collective will Fred get the BBQ? regardless of if we believe it or not, as long as views are expressed in a civilized manor, why censor it?

[URY914]

Darn, I missed it.

[Rouser]

Originally posted by URY914
Darn, I missed it.

Dang ... whah happin'?

[RandyLok]

If you're talking about the stuff that got it locked, you didn't miss anything worth your time. If you're really that intrigued, look for the locked thread below. The icon makes it easy to spot.

[TheTruth]

The herd mentality is amazing. Stromberg got banned (and with good reason) for ripping people off. Brad rips people off, but the herd believes that he is "A great guy" so anyone who contradicts that is censored and banned.


And Zois, the first amendment gives me the right to free speech. If Brad wants to file libel or slander charges, its for him to do. I said nothing about you, so you need to butt out.


And Dave, you don't have to ban me. I won't be back. I have said my piece, and the group's actions (including yours) have proven my point.


Happy Motoring to everyone!!!

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

Sean, you seem to think this BBS is a democracy, or perhaps has some connection to the US Constitution. Or that there is some concept of basic "fairness" to the way things are run here.

You're wrong.

This BBS is run by and for Pelican Parts, who can do anything they like with it. (Even ban my poor sorry ass, iffin they wanna!) I am, at least at times, one of the official arbiters of what constitutes "acceptable behavior". There was way too much crap on that other thread that was not acceptable--I let it go on for longer than I should, and finally closed it when I got fed up. Not with any one person, quite frankly, but with the whole discussion.

Mister "Truth" is welcome to air his opinions on the OT board, and welcome to participate in other discussions here. However, I will not tolerate the stupid crap that went on earlier. Trolling for flames is not acceptable behavior--nor is caving in and flaming the trolls.

[Edit--it seems that someone posted while I was replying...]
Mister "Truth", I did not ban you. I did not close the earlier thread because I disagree with your statements. I closed it because you were trolling for flames, and because quite a few people were stupid enough to flame you.

--DD

[Joe Bob]

Originally posted by TheTruth
The herd mentality is amazing. Stromberg got banned (and with good reason) for ripping people off. Brad rips people off, but the herd believes that he is "A great guy" so anyone who contradicts that is censored and banned.


And Zois, the first amendment gives me the right to free speech. If Brad wants to file libel or slander charges, its for him to do. I said nothing about you, so you need to butt out.


And Dave, you don't have to ban me. I won't be back. I have said my piece, and the group's actions (including yours) have proven my point.


Happy Motoring to everyone!!!

No it doesn't azzbreath....it gives you the right to say anything as long as you use your own name AND it's true....read your History book a little more before you start spouting off on something you have absolutely NO idea of what the Fuch you are talking about.

Read the pertinent legal sections on slander and libel.....

Hiding behind a fake name, slandering/libeling someone is a chickensheyet thing to do as well as illegal.

BTW....MY NAME IS MIKE....you don't know me well enough to take liberties with me OR my name.

Jackoff....this is getting to the point where "I" will be looking for you.....

[drewvw]

I'm getting sick of this truth guy riding around on his high horse. Stop your trash talk.

How many people in the club do you think really give a damn about you, brad or whatever happened. I just log in to hang with some friends, stop being so dramatic.

If you got a problem with Brad, take it up with him and stop making this out to be some huge deal. Its pathetic.

[Acox914]

cant we all just ....











get a bong?

[drewvw]

I agree....just had one...feel better now.

[pizza914]

Holy crap what a load. I know everyone isn't perfect & we all make mistakes. I do know Brad has allways treated me right. I'd stand with Brad anyday. MY name is JAMIE by the way. That is my real name & that ain't no lie mister Truth. I took a bit of a break when I sold my 914 a few years ago. I am back now & will be soliciting advice & probably some parts from Brad before long. Love the 914 forums & most the people on them. Yeah Pelican & 914club . Don't let the few negatives ruin it for the rest of us.

[Twystd1]

To: Mr. Truth
From Clayton Clark:
RE: This thread


Little note of interest.

Of the 4-5 K members on the club board and P-board combined.
Most of them don't know who Brad is and could care less.

Most of us are simply here for friendship, fun. technical know how and to share resources. And a tremendous amount of philanthropic giving.

A question for you:

What friendship, fun and resources have you brought to our fellowship.?


My Perceprtion of the damage from this thread:

I am trying to think what it would be like to fight a battle. While sitting behind a keyboard in a public forum.
With complete anonimity.
And zero acountability.

For me. That would be something akin to hiding behind my mommy's skirt because I was too afraid to own my part in a battle. (I remember those young days)

Thats what little boys and feminized men do.

This kind of behavior in a public venue saddens me.

Please be cognizant of the FACT that young men use this board all the time to interact with older men to get technical advise and LIFE advise daily.

Understand what you are teaching them. Understand that you are being an example to young men that frequent this board.

Understand that you are showing them it is OK to attack another in a public venue and to do it with complete anonimity. Cause ya see... It doesn't matter if you are absolutely correct in your allegations or dead wrong.

All you are doing is showing it's OK to attack and possibly harm others with NO culpability.

TO YOUNG MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That pisses me off.

If this is the best you can do as a "leading by example" technique.

I suggest you rethink your social conciousness.

All you are really doing is hurting our community.

And we/I have not wronged you to my knowledge.

Nuther question for you:

Why would you continue to fight a battle you stated you had already won?

By the way. I have done the same thing before. In the end result (for me) it was pride and ego that continued to kick my ass. I know better now. (most of the time)

Mr. Truth. I strongly suggest you re-think WHY you are doing this and how it REALLY serves you.

Cause it isn't serving me or ANY of the fellas I have talked to.

I just don't undersatnd why you feel the need to include others into YOUR fight just to satiate your own personal ajenda. Thats simple not right.

The men in my life don't allow that kind of behaviour.
It's not honarable. They would kick my ass....

Clayton Clark

AKA Twystd1

PS. Why you renting so much space in your head over all this?

Drama kills the warrior......

It turns them into women.

[sean_V8_914]

Dave...take a chill pill. your response, although correct is a tad inflamatory or agresive in nature. surely your reactivity was set off elsewhere. I have re-read my post and fail to see why you felt it OK to light me up in public. I hope you feel better now...breathe in....aaand now oout. as you exhale, feel teh tension leaving your body. isnt that better now?

[Dave at Pelican Parts]

Sorry you feel that way, Sean. I don't see it, though--if I'd intended to "light you up", it would be much more obvious...

I see my post as somewhat heavy-handed, but far from inflammatory.

--DD

[pbanders]

DD, I want to register a vote of support for your management of the forum and I appreciate your communication in this thread. I come to the forum to find out and communicate information on cars. Tolerating personal attacks here drives off valuable contributors and makes it more difficult to locate information. If anything, I wish the tolerance for such attacks were lower here than it already is.

[hardflex]

I second that....

[Joe Bob]

I don't mind obnoxious d*ckheads as I R one....what I mind are ones that hide behind a sceen name....

[Bleyseng]

I for one wish crap like the Truths posts to be instantly deleted...they are just a "personal attack" and have no car info in them.

He is just a troll getting his jollies off....kinda like the racist guy.

[Joe Bob]

[sorry, Z, but that one is too much.]

[hardflex]

LOL think that will make it past the censors?