Will cookie cutter rims fit 914?

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Will the cookie cutter 944 rims fit the 914. The inside casting number for the size is 7J x 15 H2 and part number is 911.361.023.54R,



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Thanks,

Brian
'74 1.8L is alive!

[Joe Bob]

You will have to convert to five lug, and MAY have to use spacers. The later 924/44 wheels have a different offset than the SC wheels. They tend to have more of the tire inside the face of the rim causing rubbing.

Spacers will cure that problem, but are frowned on at AX and Driver Ed events....if you don't race then that is not a problem.

IMHO 16x6 or 7 Fuchs are cheap and plentiful, unless you do not like the look.

[DDS]

In addition to the 5-bolt question, those are 7", so you'll want to run 195s or 205s (or 225s like some 944 guys do) and if you add spacers they'll certainly rub on the outside edge of the rear (unflared) fender.
7's with appropriate rubber are a tight squeeze in a stock 914 rear fender if they fiot at all.

I don't think you'd need the spacers anyway as the later 944 wheels with the different offset were 8" x 16 fuchs, not cookies but I could be wrong on that.

I have a set of 6 X 15" cookies and before I flared my car they fit nicely on my 914 with 195/60s.

The fuchs cost a bit more than the cookies, but I agree with Mike, they're the way to go. 15" fuchs are cheaper.


Dave



[This message has been edited by DDS (edited 09-07-2001).]

[Brant]

6 inch cookie cutters will usually fit on a fender with 5-bolt conversion. It may be necessary to trim the inner lip or roll it. Of course for some cars this is necessary with smaller rims and less than 205 tires.

Early (6inch) cookie cutters are available in a 911 offset and generally work.

7 inch cookie cutters will not work on a stock fender. They will rub on the outside of the rim.

Brant

[campbellcj]

FWIW the Fuchs are also stronger than the cookies - forged vs. cast.

[thamlin000]

Originally posted by campbellcj:
FWIW the Fuchs are also stronger than the cookies - forged vs. cast.

Actually, I think both Fuchs and Cookies are forged. Phonedials are cast.

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[farleyd]

I managed to put 215/50/15 on 6x15 Fuchs by gently baseball-batting the lips of the flares. So far it doesnt rub on the inside. The look is a bit meaty, but i like it.

It leaves about 1/2 from the rubber to the inside lips.
You may offset the lips more that i did. It was minimal.

Im yet to see Cookie Cutter on 914, always wondered what it’d look like. Maybe a little Photoshop would show it....

Good luck.

[DDS]

Look here. My before pics. I like cookies.


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Pics of my '73 project here: http://members.tripod.com/mike4g/dds73_b4pics.htm

[Brant]

Chris is right the fuchs are forged the cookies are cast. Actually on the track its pretty easy to "flat spot" the cookie wheel. Of course they are easily repairable also.

There are probably 7 cars running the cookies around here. Most started running 6 inchers (me too) and then stepped up to 7 inchers because they were allowed to with the rules. You will have to manipulate the fender or add some type of flare for the 7. A few guys around here cut the fender into an oval opening and put on metal vw rabit flares. Cheap way to flare and then room for a 7 inch wheel. Looks fine too.
brant

[Howard R]

I'm running 15x7 Fuchs replicas with 205 60 on my 6 with standard fenders except that the edges are rolled. I had the wheels made with 135mm backspacing to make sure they would fit at the rear and ended up using 10mm spacers on the rear and 25mm at the front. So I think you will find that any wheel with 125mm backspacing or more will let you use a 7 inch wheel. For a list of 924-944 wheels see http://www.connactivity.com/~kgross/944faq13.html

[DDS]

Howard, does that mean you backspaced 10mm then spaced it back 10mm? What exactly was the issue? How much backspacing can the rear arms/inner fender tolerate? TIA

Dave

[Howard R]

Sorry, it seems that site has moved. The wheels that will fit are either 944 82-86 15x7 125mm backspacing, or 944, 944S 87-88 front either 15x7 or 16x7 153.9mm backspacing. In the latter case you will need a spacer 25-29 mm.

[Howard R]

Dave,

What happened was that I wanted to make sure the 7's would fit at the rear so I had them made with 135mm backspacing. When I put them on the car after it was restored (about 2 years later) I had a fair bit of clearance between the tyre and the body, so I spaced them out 10mm. The net result is 5mm more backspacing, but I only have 2mm wheel to body clearance on one side and 7mm on the other. If I had known about the 944 wheels I could have saved myself a lot of messing around.