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Another option for front struts

First of all, the short answer is - Ground Control lists double adjustable front coilover kits on their website. They dont list the struts alone. But if you call, they have options.

For about $699, they make, in house, strut housings similar to m030 (perchless), with a built in threaded sleeve, and insertable, then powder coated. They can also adjust length, droop, etc.

For about $1089 they can make housings for, and including, double adjustable koni inserts.



For reference on how the double adjusters are situated:



I posted this on my Facebook and I will copy here:

I don't usually do this but when good service is found, it's worth sharing.

I recently found a front strut in the 944 that no longer had rebound damping, and in short, there aren't a lot of options for me out there with the m030.
I have coilover sleeves, I had just bought camber plates, and I have springs. All I needed was a strut.

I found that Ground Control sells a full double adjustable Koni front coilover kit - but I didn't need the kit that came with everything I already had.
So I called them - I want to add that every time I call, a person answers first or second ring. I appreciate that a lot.

After a few questions about my arrangement, Jay at GC sends over an email estimate for making (they make them in-house) a housing with a single adjustable insertable Koni. Fair price. I then called and asked about the double adjustables, and he sends over an estimate for those. Fair price. That was yesterday.

Today I call and say let's go ahead with the doubles, and he says he has already gotten the process going yesterday, just in case, and they'll be made, powder coated, and hopefully sent out tomorrow. Wow. I expected a few week delay.

This isn't the first time I've called and had to ask questions about what I need, and they have always been fast, friendly, and helpful.

I'm super impressed - they have earned my continuing business. Thank you Ground Control.
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Looks like they did a great job, thanks for sharing.
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These do require camber plates - They got rid of the slot for the eccentric because of slippage issues with hard use on that style adjustment - i can vouch that mine was constantly an issue.
These are also about 2-3 inches shorter than factory, but that can be adjusted as needed on request!
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So if they now use fixed bolts and no eccentric on the spindle attachment, which imo is a huge improvement in reliability, I’d be interested to know what range of camber you can dial in using some quality plates like Racers Edge.
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thats a good question. i have the GC top mount plates, and i will be taking it in for alignment with my tune in the next month or so. curious of the same thing!
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You get 4-degree adjustment range with Racer's Edge plates.
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You get 4-degree adjustment range with Racer's Edge plates.
That’s perfectly acceptable, thank you for checking :thumbup:

Edit: apologies but I thought the op had answered. Is that 4-degrees with the GC struts that the op posted, ie with no adjustment at the spindles.
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These were a custom order. i would almost bet that they could build default camber into the bolt holes for the hub, to get extra, upon request. all it would take is moving the upper hole in a little bit. that is, if its determined that the plates give a satisfactory amount. i wont have an answer on that for a bit. i have a friend giving me a trackside camber measurement kit soon, so i could probably do a quick estimate on max camber.
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That’s perfectly acceptable, thank you for checking :thumbup:

Edit: apologies but I thought the op had answered. Is that 4-degrees with the GC struts that the op posted, ie with no adjustment at the spindles.
Yes, that 4-degree range is at camber-plates alone. I typically set plates to full-positive position, then align using cam-bolt at spindle to -1.5 degrees for street use. Then at track, I'll adjust camber-plates to full-negative to get -5.5 degrees.

Well depends upon track. Tight tracks like Laguna Seca needs more camber and more open tracks like Willow Springs need less.

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the numbers on the plates go to -4. I think its really silly that companies put numbers on them though, guaranteed that -4 isnt -4.
When i get aligned, ill see how much i can get out of it. hopefully more than the -3.5 i was getting with the cam bolt
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