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| Registered Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mesa, AZ 
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				Convert A/C to R143?
			 
			I need to replace my compressor anyway, and the guy at Griffiths told me the conversion to R134 works good on the 944.  I think it will save me money in the long run, but I want to know if it really works well.  Has anybody done the conversion and how well does it work.  Thanks for any input.
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|  06-26-2000, 04:07 PM | 
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| Registered Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Fairfield, CT, USA 
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			My oled mans 951S has R134, it cools the air just fine but the shop says they have seen a correlation between R134 conversions and bad evaporator cores.  Expensive replacement but then R12 is $60+ a pound so you probably save in teh long run.
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|  06-26-2000, 10:16 PM | 
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			I had this conversion done on my 83 last summer.  It cost me about $1400.  The big cost was the condensor.  Mine was cracked.  I looked everywhere, couldn't find a used one, so had to bite the bullet and buy new. The cooling is satisfactory, but as you know, the early 944's have TERRIBLE airflow! | ||
|  06-27-2000, 05:05 PM | 
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| Registered Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Herrin Ill USA 
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			 I changed mine over to the Sanden compressor, and 134a. It does alright, but like the man said, the early cars had terrible airflow. I like my a/c COLD. That's why I said it's alright. We have a 97 Olds' Cutlass also, and the a/c in my car is almost as cold as the Cutlass.
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|  07-01-2000, 07:25 PM | 
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| Registered Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Kingsport, TN 
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			Can't recall whether I sent you a note about this.  I converted two of my vehicles to an alternate refrigerant that is quite inexpensive and can be mixed with F12.  The F12 will eventually leak out leaving the new stuff.  I did my 1980 450SL about 4 years ago.  It is still cooling well.  Two years ago I added it to my 1986 944turbo.  It works even better in it.  So far there have been no problems with either car.  If you are interested, let me know.  A full charge costs about $15.  
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|  07-08-2000, 11:17 AM | 
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| Registered Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mesa, AZ 
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			Lawrence, yes I'm interested in what you used.  Could you please explain what it is, where you got it and about how much it would cost.  Thanks, Nate
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|  07-09-2000, 11:22 AM | 
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			just vac. mine up and put the mineral oil and 134-a also i put a leeak detector and that was it...never had a problem and i drive my 944 everyday with a/c on....done it on my 928 lasy yr. and never had a problem..but stupid me...i put a supercharger on my 928 and my a/c has to go...too bad...
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|  07-28-2000, 03:43 PM | 
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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Wheaton,Il USA 
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			A correlation between R134A and evaporator failure???? Sounds very strange to me since evap's for both refrigerants are constructed from the same materials. I converted my '79 924 and my '84 944. Both blow 45 deg. F. As far as condensers are concerned, there are universal high efficiency serpentine aluminum condensers available from J. C Whitney for around $75. These work great. I changed all of the o-rings but not the hose and have not seen any problems with lost refrigerant in either car. Both were converted 2 years ago.
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