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Thumbs down flex-disk HELP!

Hey guys,
i have an automatic 944 84', and the flex-disk just broke..and the sound the car made was horrible. took it to the shop and they said it would take about 5 hours to fix. i wanted to kno where i could find this flex-disk part and if there are any good sites which would sell em cheaper. thanks

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try oklahoma foreign or parts heaven, they should have a flex plate.
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out of curiosity, what did it sound like and were there any symptoms leading up to it?

have not experienced a flex disk failure, but would like to know what it is when it happens.
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it was totally unexpected. no sound problems, nothing. it just happened, and u could feel ur car shake. i was going up hill, pushing it. plus i was driving it for a while on a hot day . but yea, at a red light, you will heard a loud clanking sound, metal against metal. very loud and very annoying.

i dont kno how you can tell if its about togo....especially because this is such a vital component. but yea, i guess im looking for $1k in repairs.
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Buy a new disk unless you can get a low milage used one. Todwick had one let go when he lived locally. Was a racket!!!
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so i guess theres no way to tell . this sucks..i start school next week..btw...not to change topics..but does anyone kno any good security systems for cheap? thanks
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Don't put a high dollar stereo in it. Pile lots of junk in the back and leave the cargo cover rolled up so it can be seen. Don't wash it. Put DeadHead stickers all over it.
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HAHAHAH that'll cost close to nothing lol.
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Good luck on the shop only charging you 5 hours........

Alarm systems..cheapest is to pull the fuel pump relay out every time you park it..no cost. Letting an alarm shop work on...a good way to annoy the shop that will be working on the car afterwards.
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Or a hidden toggle that disables the fuel pump.
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Good luck on the shop only charging you 5 hours........
the guy said he charges by what the book said, but he told me it would really take him 8 hours to do.
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Hope he noticed that the flex disc is on the engine, not what the torque convertor is bolted to....
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Yeap. Bet he finds out and charges you more. If he's never done one before he's in for a surprize.

Hint: You have to unbolt the flex disk from the flywheel and the engine from the bell housing to get to the clip on the front of the drive shaft. That clip is between the disc and the engine.
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yeah, the ‘flex plate’ (that the torque converter attaches to) rarely breaks.

but changing that disk (or rubber flex damper) on the flywheel is about the same amount of work as a new clutch.

the part alone is about $700…plus what?... 8 - 10 hours labor minimum

unless you do it yourself, you’re looking at about $2000 or more - easy

many would say there are better ways to spend that money than to put it into a 22 year old slushbox
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but changing that disk (or rubber flex damper) on the flywheel is about the same amount of work as a new clutch.

the part alone is about $700…plus what?... 8 - 10 hours labor minimum

unless you do it yourself, you’re looking at about $2000 or more - easy

many would say there are better ways to spend that money than to put it into a 22 year old slushbox
There is wisdom in what carson speaks. The disc is @ $700, plus the two sensors I broke taking the bell housing off (yes, it was very, very hard to move the housing untill the sensors broke), plus the labor. I guess it all boils down to
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    dampner

    IF you are interested, I have a used one for sale. I took it out of my 88 that I converted to a 5-speed. It is in decent shape with some surface cracks starting to come in it, but it is solid. E-mail me and I can send you a couple of pics.
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    thanks for the offer todd, but i already started the job....man...he only charged me 8 hours, but he's put a total of 18+ hours trying to get some broken piece out of the other parts. its been a real headache let me tell u...btw

    how did u change ur 88 to a 5 speed? is it hard?
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    What broken piece? If he's never ever worked on an 944 let a lone an automatic 944 your're in trouible!!!

    Read him my previous post where I describe the procedure to get to and remove the damper at the back of the engine.

    Further thoughts: Bet this is the sensors. Just remove the bracket sensors and all.
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    OK, after Hugh's post regarding the sensor bracket being broken...what's the betting that it won't start after repairs?

    As I said, good luck on the shop only charging 5 hours....
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