Holy hell! I own a rust & oil nightmare! I need soem help...

Kierf - ¿§? · 01-20-2002, 03:08 AM

Okay...I'm trying to do a tune up on my car...but something just keeps getting in the way. This morning, I took off the front lip and undercarriage pan only to find a MESS. Just look at the pictures. Is there an easy way to clean it up? If not, how should I go about de-greasing...well...everything. I can't tell where the oil is coming from until I clean it all up. I did buy a new seal kit for the tune up, though.

Also, for the parts that are rusted...any suggestions on what to do?

Lastly...where is the drain bolt for the block coolant and the drain bolt for the radiator? I looked in my Haynes and it was of no help.

Oh.

Kierf - ¿§? · 01-20-2002, 03:09 AM

Adam · Adam's Garage

I believe that blue plastic thing that you ask "what is this?" is the drain plug for your radiator. Be especially careful removing it as they're old and tend to be brittle. It's probably a good idea to have a new one (from Porsche) ready to go in when you do change the coolant.

Can't really help too much on the oil leaks...

Good Luck!

Lawrence Coppari · 01-20-2002, 03:32 AM

The little round thing with the two leads on top is the oil sender unit. The blue thing is drain plug for radiator. It is brittle.

Leaks can come from anywhere. You'll need to clean the engine to find where the leaks are. Clean it with an engine cleaner and a hose following the instructions on the spray can. Another way to find it without cleaning is to get the oil additive that glows under black light. That will show the leak without cleaning the engine.

Typical leaks (that I've had) are balance shaft housings, balance shaft seals, balance shaft end plug, oil sender units, oil pan gasket, gasket between oil filter housing and block. As the years go by the oil pan gasket is slowly cooked where it is near the exhaust. Mine is leaking there and I am currently changing the gasket and rod bearing while I'm at it.

ae1969 · 01-20-2002, 08:41 AM

That looked like mine...... about a year ago.

My main culprits were the camshaft gasket, oilcooler gasket (external oil leak, thank goodness no coolant mixing with oil), trasmission oil leak (cooler), coolant leak, oil pan gasket etc............you name it.............. but no front seals! go figure.

Looking at your pics I would definitely guess the camshaft gasket has seen better days..........but if you havent changed your front seals, that would definitely be a place to start.

Use BRAKE CLEANER ............comes in aerosol cans........works the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make sure engine is cool

Once you have it all clean, it will slowly become apparent where the leaks come from...

The problem with all that oil all over the place, it has a tendancy to brake down rubber components (motor mounts, bushings, hoses ....etc), so if you keep it like that it just causes something else to break in the future.

THe blue plug is the drain plug....and it broke on me!! and to make matters worse.........the plastic on the radiator broke as well........had to use some plastic weld (worked great) and replaced the drain spout by tapping a new one in (metal).

Good luck

porschepatron · 01-20-2002, 09:53 AM

Drain plug for the coolant from the block is located on the right rear of your block at the top near the head. Its directly under the 4th exhaust port. I think its a 15mm or 17mm plug.

Kierf - ¿§? · 01-20-2002, 12:36 PM

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm going to clean it up today and try to find the leaks. I'll post some pictures later...

adrian jaye · 01-21-2002, 09:17 AM

Hi, Kierf,

Your title is a total contradiction in terms,

There's nothing holy about hell !

Sorry for the OT reply and I'm sure you were'nt trying to be offensive.

Good luck with the work !

Adrian

Kierf - ¿§? · 01-21-2002, 11:38 AM

Hehe...no, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I think holy hell sounded better and was more appropriate than holy ****.

adrian jaye · 07:14 AM

Hey Kierf,

I'm sure you were'nt.

But the word Holy, should only be used in the context it was intended for i.e.

Belonging to, derived from, or associated with a divine power; sacred

That don't describe words such as "smoke" "hell"
whatever. Hey, I used to watch Batman you know,
"Holy scarlet jingle bells, Batman" or what ever.

Just 'cos ppl use a term incorrectly or out of context dont make it right .

But I understand where your coming from and not trying to take this tread OT, start a flame and no I'm not a troll !

Just putting the word right were I see 's wrong.

Good luck to ya and your problem

Adrian

Lawrence Coppari · 01-22-2002, 03:10 PM

Please get off the pulpit. If you found what he said offensive, you should have ignored him rather than subject everyone else to your interpretation of what is right and what is wrong and the way you think it is. This kind of thinking and lack of tolerance is why people have been killing one another for centuries.

Kierf - ¿§? · 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adrian jaye
Hey Kierf,

I'm sure you were'nt.

But the word Holy, should only be used in the context it was intended for i.e.

Belonging to, derived from, or associated with a divine power; sacred

That don't describe words such as "smoke" "hell"
whatever. Hey, I used to watch Batman you know,
"Holy scarlet jingle bells, Batman" or what ever.

Just 'cos ppl use a term incorrectly or out of context dont make it right .

But I understand where your coming from and not trying to take this tread OT, start a flame and no I'm not a troll !

Just putting the word right were I see 's wrong.

Good luck to ya and your problem

Adrian

Well since you did that...I'm going to pick apart what you said, if you're that concerned with me using the word holy. If I did actually believe in Heaven/Hell, by your definition, Hell is holy. Those who worship The Devil/Hades/Hell/Underworld/etc, believe that the Underworld, Hell, etc is a holy place.

Secondly, if you want to tell me how to use the word, how about I tell you that your English is terrible? You used the wrong 'your/you're'. 'See's' is not a word. The correct way you should have worded your sentence should have been, "...where I see wrong." That brings me to the next incorrect use of a word. Were. It should have been where, not were.

...anyways, I'm done with this post. ** Edit for content **

Holy Kierf.

Z-man · Z-man's Garage

Ok people: let's just calm down a little with the language and the bashing.

If you want to help Kierf with his oil and rust problems, please post.

But if this post continues in the manner in which it is going, it will be locked.

Thank you,
-Zoltan.
Moderator.

Kierf - ¿§? · 01-23-2002, 08:41 AM

Alrighty, just a lil update:
The oil in the pictures I posted is actually power steering fluid. I drained my power steering system and disconnected the resevoir, only to find small cracks in the two hoses coming out of it.

As for the rust...well...I haven't quite done anything about it yet. However, I did find more oil or something to that effect around the turbo last night. I'll get some more pictures later today...

lordgrommit · 01-23-2002, 08:43 AM

High five to my brother moderator-

Matt

Z-man · Z-man's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by lordgrommit
High five to my brother moderator-

Matt

Thanks! Just tryin' to keep the peace....

-Z.

88_944 · 88_944's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by Adam Chaplin
I believe that blue plastic thing that you ask "what is this?" is the drain plug for your radiator. Be especially careful removing it as they're old and tend to be brittle. It's probably a good idea to have a new one (from Porsche) ready to go in when you do change the coolant.

Can't really help too much on the oil leaks...

Good Luck!

This is what I do when I drain my radiator, I just take off the bottom radiator hose and let the radiator drain then risking the brittle of the radiator drain plug and its faster too.

lm6y · 01-23-2002, 06:44 PM

GO Lawrence!!!!!!!