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16" offset fuchs on a late offset
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Right now I'm considering rim options for the future, and I was wondering if a set of euromeister 16x7 and 16x8 or 16x9s will fit on my 87 944? The reason I would buy euromeister is because I just can't afford a Porsche original set of them with tires. I know Fuchs don't fit my year, but would a 16" rim instead of 15" work since it's slightly larger? I've tried to find threads on this but I haven't found something specifically on my late model car and a set of larger replica Fuchs. |
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11-16-2013, 05:52 AM
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11-16-2013, 07:11 AM
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Alright, so does the problem arise from where the wheel bolts to the hub? I was wondering, then, if I bought wheel spacers. Would that make them compatible or is it just not possible?
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11-16-2013, 09:32 AM
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Alright, so does the problem arise from where the wheel bolts to the hub? I was wondering, then, if I bought wheel spacers. Would that make them compatible or is it just not possible?
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11-16-2013, 09:37 AM
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Only solution to fitting Fuchs to a late car is to buy the new ones $$$'s, get them converted to late offset by Lindsey Racing $$'s, or fit wide-body fenders.
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11-16-2013, 09:43 AM
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Alright, I see what you are saying, makes sense. I have found a car on rennlist that has 7" cookie cutters on it (it's a late offset), and looks rather nice. Would I be safe to go with these?
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11-16-2013, 04:16 PM
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iirc all cookie cutters are early offset also, so same problem as the Fuchs. If they are on an 87 then i would guess it has early front arms and rear hubs.
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11-16-2013, 05:45 PM
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Check the link below, I believe you need some 52mm offset wheels. (phone dials, D90's, trash cans, cups,etc, etc.
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11-16-2013, 06:31 PM
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I was under the impressions that cookie cutters were shallower than fuchs. I wish I had more info on the rennlist car I saw, it looked great with the wheel arches filled out. Are there any cheaper (under 1000) wheel sets that would fill out the wheel wells on my car without needing a spacer?
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11-16-2013, 09:40 PM
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Also, on ebay, I found a 1980 set of 15x6 front and 15x7 rear cookie cutter wheels. Might these have a chance of fitting? I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't fit on the rear of my car given how much space there is between the tire and wheel well, but I still can't be sure. I've also read that for 23mm offset wheels, a maximum of 7" width will fit on a late car.
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11-16-2013, 09:50 PM
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http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php Offset calculator. 1010TIRES.COM - Wheel Offset Calculator
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11-17-2013, 04:38 AM
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I've already used this actually and found it will bring the wheel out 29mm (which is roughly 1.2 inches) I'll have to go out to my car today and put a ruler to it or something.
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11-17-2013, 06:09 AM
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Here's a great wheel resource I used when I was selecting my wheel/tire combo. Offsets are listed: 944racing
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11-17-2013, 07:21 AM
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Why not buy phone dials, trash lids or d90's, all come under $1k a set and all come late offset so you know they will fit. Even if your wheel measurement shows 1.2in clearance the early wheels most likely will rub the inner fender with the tires on and the rear squatted down. Also don't forget you will be increasing the track which means more body roll and you will not have the ability to lower your car.
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11-17-2013, 09:24 AM
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It's possible to put skinny early offset wheels on a late-offset 944, but for what purpose?
7" Cookie cutters may work with skinny tires, but may rub a bit under compression. Changing the front offset changes the steering/suspension geometry in unpleasant ways. If all you are looking for is to have full wheel openings when parked in front of Starbucks, fine. If you care about the excellent handling dynamics that Porsche engineered into the 944, use correctly-sized wheels with proper offsets. |
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11-18-2013, 12:17 PM
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Original poster - if you're dead set on Fuchs (i.e. forged wheels), go with 951 (87 and up) turbo fuchs. They're late offset, will fit great, come in an 8" width to help fillout your wheel wells, and are still quite light:
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11-18-2013, 12:51 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't have the budget for Fuchs ): I will still be exploring wheel options! I've always been more towards the cosmetic enhancement rather than performance gain since my car is a daily driver and I have no race tracks or long windy roads in my area. I've already fixed a few things on my car, so it's a bit of a project and If I make mistakes here and there, I'm going to fix them because I've already decided I'm going to keep this car for my entire life because that's how much I love it. I'm hoping sometime down the road I'll have the opportunity to buy some compatible Fuchs but until then, I'll have to go for a cheaper option. The idea of being able to buy a whole other 944 for the price of a set of Fuchs kinda bugs me, too
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11-18-2013, 06:28 PM
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1) YES, you can get 7x15 "early" offset wheels to fit on an 87 and newer car.. but it doesn't look right. You can't get larger than 7" to fit, as you run into clearance issues with the fender lip.
2) As mentioned, "early" offset wheels have an ET of 10-23.3mm. "Late" offset wheels have an ET in the 47-52mm range. One of the convenient items of a late car is you can run wheels from the 964 up to today's cars without much work. That sure makes for a lot of options in 16, 17 or even 18" diameters.
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11-21-2013, 05:08 PM
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FT et36 on the 6" cookies 6"' Fuchs
FYI 15x6 Cookie cutters have an ET offset of 36 and will work on the front
additionally 16x6 Fuchs will also fit in front on a late offset 944and 16x7Fuchs will fit on the rear with its et23 same as the 15x7 cookies. Below my 87 944 N/A parted and long gone...      Have a set of 16x6 16x7 Fuchs if you wanted to go that way ...
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04-19-2014, 06:35 AM
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This is great, I love the look. Did you happen to try 16x7s in the front? Now I have a set of cookie cutters waiting to go on my car.
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04-19-2014, 12:56 PM
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