Twin Turbo Video on Youtube - Page 2

AOlson · 04-20-2008, 08:08 AM

Just saw this for the first time... Boy there sure was a lot of white smoke coming out of that tail pipe. How old are those head gaskets? Would hate to see all that hard work get destroyed...

sonett3 · 04-20-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Olson

Just saw this for the first time... Boy there sure was a lot of white smoke coming out of that tail pipe. How old are those head gaskets? Would hate to see all that hard work get destroyed...

I guess you are at it again Olson, Besides you will only see the ass end of the car only.

Normy · 04-20-2008, 07:55 PM

I really don't understand how the lot of you don't like this guy and his accomplishments. I can semi-understand the debate between types of superchargers. Should it be a centrifugal-flow, a twin screw... or maybe a turbocharger? It is all the same, forced induction. All of us have significant others, and they in the end are the primary determinant in what we do with our toys, our Porsche 928's.

Why the acrimony toward Herr Kuhn and his latest turbo system?

N!

rhjames · rhjames's Garage

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Originally Posted by Normy

Why the acrimony toward Herr Kuhn and his latest turbo system?

N!

who knows...it certainly isn't justified.

for a while there, I thought it was a sand box issue.....maybe some folks (not referring to John here) just can't have any critiques sent their way, but John has been pretty much over it for some time now.......

the complainers of what I have written in the past are the same ones who don't follow the rules per se, and then when someone makes a comment (about whatever), the response is "you don't know what you're talking about...." Unjustified as well-

if we all would just quit teasing, trashing, bashing and just plain stopped being mean to each other, the forums would be a lot better off>>>>>>>>>

all of this picking at each other has become very tiresome........

Herr-Kuhn · 03:41 AM

Andrew, I do take it that you understand that one of the by-products of combustion is water vapor...
I'm convinced all the problems you have had as of late are caused by Bad Kharma.

Other than that I really don't have anything else to say here.

rich · rich's Garage

Cool car! What a lot of real work! Hat's off to you!

AOlson · 04-21-2008, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sonett3

I guess you are at it again Olson, Besides you will only see the ass end of the car only.

Whoa... I was saying this out of genuine concern. However, rereading my statement, I guess one could misconstrue it for some rib/dig at John, but that was not my intention (hence the smiley face...).

I had an issue with pitting on my head which allowed coolant to ever so slightly leak into my combustion chamber. I would hate to see something similar happen to this car. If that car was cold, I could understand the white smoke as a result of accumulated condensation burning off, but once warm it shouldn't expell that much except in the coldest of climates (e.g. Minnesota), and even then it shouldn't be that much. Hence my concern.

A simple explanation like "The car was was not fully warmed..." or "the HGs have already been replaced" or something of the like would have been a more appropriate response than an attack on me.

I love fast cars, no matter how it's accomplished - be it displacement, supercharger, turbo, NOS. Just saw a 650WHP Mitsubishi with a 2.3l engine running 30 psi. Simply amazing. Maybe someday I can get to that type of HP/L, but that's a dream for now. I digress.

We need to all work together and share information that we gain through our efforts to lessen the learning curve. It's kind of like that analogy of working together to grow the pie, rather than just trying to get the largest slice. By growing the pie we all win. It's a much more mature attitude.

For example I learned how to strengthen our stock TT shafts by 50%. I'm happy to share the information once this BS stops.

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Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn

Andrew, I do take it that you understand that one of the by-products of combustion is water vapor...
I'm convinced all the problems you have had as of late are caused by Bad Karma.

Other than that I really don't have anything else to say here.

And as for my issues... and I have had issues, no lie there... they are a result of having a high mileage car, that had not been taken care of. I thought it was a bargain - no such thing. Bad Karma? I don't think so. I've done a lot for the 928 community and I go way out of my way to help people when I can.

I'd be happy to buy you a beer sometime if you'd let me and maybe we can bury the hatchet. What do you say?

Herr-Kuhn · 04-21-2008, 08:45 AM

Trust me Andrew, there are no issues from my side. We just want to surround you with turbo technology until you say "Uncle"

We were going to dress "Sonett III" up in a Monkey suit and let him chase you around the show in June whilst carrying a turbocharger, but on closer examination I determined this would not be in good taste and that someone may end up taking offense to it all.

You buy the beer and I'm game, but I won't be throwing a blown head gasket into your shrine as I don't have any to submit!

sonett3 · 04-21-2008, 09:45 AM

Well then I guess you need to stop the BS Olson.

rhjames · rhjames's Garage

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Originally Posted by AOlson

For example I learned how to strengthen our stock TT shafts by 50%. I'm happy to share the information

interesting......haven't heard of anyone breaking a torque tube (shaft). I've seen the couplers broken, clutches blown, transmissions torn up......and oiling problems with the engines, but no shaft breakage.

maybe.....it's the next thing in line for failure....?

AOlson · 04-21-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sonett3

Well then I guess you need to stop the BS Olson.

No BS from me...

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interesting......haven't heard of anyone breaking a torque tube (shaft). I've seen the couplers broken, clutches blown, transmissions torn up......and oiling problems with the engines, but no shaft breakage.

maybe.....it's the next thing in line for failure....?

A few people have. I learned that if we could drill a 1/4" hole in the center of our TT's it would be much stronger than the solid piece because you remove the fulcrum point (i.e. the center) and transfer the load over a greater area. The problem is we can't drill a hole that long without great expense.

The solution is heat treating. The factory TT's are not heat treated. The issue is that traditional heat treating (horizontal) will cause the the shaft to bend/warp which will cause considerable vibration at 6800 RPM. If you can hang it and heat treat it, you can impart 50% more strength to the shaft and gravity with help you to keep it straight. But it's not easy to find a place to do it.

Luckily the breaks appear to have been anomolies thus far, but eventually it will become an issue for high HP 928's.

sonett3 · 04-21-2008, 11:18 AM

HA HA HA . That is very funny coming from you[ the one that starts all the BS] Olson. That goes to show people how much of a man that you realy are. Besides, I am not going to go on with this game that you are playing. That's the way I see It olson.

rhjames · rhjames's Garage

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Originally Posted by AOlson

No BS from me...

A few people have. I learned that if we could drill a 1/4" hole in the center of our TT's it would be much stronger than the solid piece because you remove the fulcrum point (i.e. the center) and transfer the load over a greater area. The problem is we can't drill a hole that long without great expense.

The solution is heat treating. The factory TT's are not heat treated. The issue is that traditional heat treating (horizontal) will cause the the shaft to bend/warp which will cause considerable vibration at 6800 RPM. If you can hang it and heat treat it, you can impart 50% more strength to the shaft and gravity with help you to keep it straight. But it's not easy to find a place to do it.

Luckily the breaks appear to have been anomolies thus far, but eventually it will become an issue for high HP 928's.

when you look into the expense of it, and then match the cost of replacement to it, you might find it's not worth the effort......

I've got two complete torque tubes w/ good bearings in my pile of parts, and no takers. in this case I suspect it's just easier/less expensive to do a changeout of the whole tt assembly.

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SeanR · 04-21-2008, 01:40 PM

Maybe i should try that before I blow another one.

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Originally Posted by AOlson

No BS from me...

A few people have. I learned that if we could drill a 1/4" hole in the center of our TT's it would be much stronger than the solid piece because you remove the fulcrum point (i.e. the center) and transfer the load over a greater area. The problem is we can't drill a hole that long without great expense.

The solution is heat treating. The factory TT's are not heat treated. The issue is that traditional heat treating (horizontal) will cause the the shaft to bend/warp which will cause considerable vibration at 6800 RPM. If you can hang it and heat treat it, you can impart 50% more strength to the shaft and gravity with help you to keep it straight. But it's not easy to find a place to do it.

Luckily the breaks appear to have been anomolies thus far, but eventually it will become an issue for high HP 928's.

Glenn M · 04-21-2008, 04:06 PM

I have been following John and his progress for years. I saw the car at SITM last year and it is spectacular. His work is outstanding! I look forward to seeing his car again this year.

Glenn

Herr-Kuhn · 04-22-2008, 03:19 AM

Stop by Glenn...we can go for a ride. I didn't give any rides last year.

Glenn M · 04-22-2008, 04:29 AM

John,
That would be great, I will take you up on it!

Glenn

AOlson · 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sonett3

HA HA HA . That is very funny coming from you[ the one that starts all the BS] Olson. That goes to show people how much of a man that you realy are. Besides, I am not going to go on with this game that you are playing. That's the way I see It olson.

Why are you such a prick?? I offered a genuine concern... Oh why bother. This is like my eighth post on this board and I'm ready to put you on my ignore list (if there is one here).

Edit: Nope! no ignore list. Oh well. I guess I will just have to taunt you a second time...

Danglerb · 04-22-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AOlson

Why are you such a prick??

Isn't the answer in the Porsche owner FAQ?

Use the "manual" ignore function, pay no attention to negative off topic comments and say what you want to say.

BTW I have a Kentucky long rifle with a barrel drilled by hand over 100 years ago, I sure hope mechanic skills haven't dropped that much since then. OTOH I am not really buying the drill a hole and make it stronger stuff. Besides axles will break before the TT does.

sonett3 · 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AOlson

Why are you such a prick?? I offered a genuine concern... Oh why bother. This is like my eighth post on this board and I'm ready to put you on my ignore list (if there is one here).

Edit: Nope! no ignore list. Oh well. I guess I will just have to taunt you a second time...

Hey Olson taunt all you want,that just shows everyone how much of a"boy"you are!