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Pete R 02-16-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by uBoat Commander (Post 7914285)
That is an amazingly easy reaction to have. Heck, look at the title of my OP - I wanted to kill the guy & get away with it.

Tell me how you feel when you have a 75 year old guy tell you his life story, how he is an unemployed mechanic because of RA, when he is standing three feet in front of you and he takes his hat in his hands as he asks for forgiveness, while at the same time handing you a check drawn from one of the churches he works at.

That's the problem', every drunk has a sob story, it's the reason and result of being a drunk. Next week when he kills someone's little kid they'll ask "why was he driving?". There a many things I can forgive...dwi, is not one of them, I would have taken a different path.

uBoat Commander 02-16-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete R (Post 7914819)
That's the problem', every drunk has a sob story, it's the reason and result of being a drunk. Next week when he kills someone's little kid they'll ask "why was he driving?". There a many things I can forgive...dwi, is not one of them, I would have taken a different path.

If you were a friend of Bob & Bill, you would perhaps have a different viewpoint.

There is a wild difference between a 19 year old kid doing beer bongs all night and wrecking his car, and an alcoholic.

Fogey1 02-16-2014 03:39 PM

Not a friend of B&B, but I take your point.

What I do tend to believe is that karma works both ways, not always but some times. And I KNOW there have been, and probably will be again, times when I was in desperate need of forgiveness and got it.

Fixer 02-16-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danglerb (Post 7913839)
Lots of times facing the consequences of their actions is much better for a person than getting away with it.

That's what my Wife said when i finally got home.

Dumb I know..The driver was so upset about his 951 though.



I have to say this whole thing would have Columbo really scratching his head.:confused:

Pete R 02-16-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by uBoat Commander (Post 7914862)
If you were a friend of Bob & Bill, you would perhaps have a different viewpoint.

There is a wild difference between a 19 year old kid doing beer bongs all night and wrecking his car, and an alcoholic.

Not to the person and the families they wreck.

uBoat Commander 02-16-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete R (Post 7915078)
Not to the person and the families they wreck.

I wish for you, then, to someday be blessed with enlightenment. Life is not black & white, it almost never is.

Pete R 02-16-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uBoat Commander (Post 7915087)
I wish for you, then, to someday be blessed with enlightenment. Life is not black & white, it almost never is.

It has nothing to do with enlightenment, the guy seems to need help and your doing him no favors by enabling him. Hey, be his buddy, get him help, do what you should, but get him off the road. To allow someone to habitually drink and drive is irresponsible. You know what usually stops people like him? a head on crash... you'd would be saving his like as well.

mixybro4 02-16-2014 08:30 PM

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<div style="font-style:italic">I wish for you, then, to someday be blessed with enlightenment. Life is not black &amp; white, it almost never is.</div>
</div>It has nothing to do with enlightenment, the guy seems to need help and your doing him no favors by enabling him. Hey, be his buddy, get him help, do what you should, but get him off the road. To allow someone to habitually drink and drive is irresponsible. You know what usually stops people like him? a head on crash... you'd would be saving his like as well.
I'm going to have to side with you on this one Pete. He sure as hell shouldn't be driving.

Crumpler 02-17-2014 07:34 AM

Pete, you are dead on as usual.

But, Uboat is not the one responsible for getting this guy help, or off the road.
I would question the church for enabling this smuck, if my understanding that they cut the check is accurate.

Even if Uboat had wanted to teach this guy a lesson, and even if the police might have pursued it -- the district attorney would not have prosecuted.
Ask me how I know.

curtisr 02-17-2014 06:32 PM

Where are the itty-bitty red bits?

Fixer 02-18-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crumpler (Post 7915775)
Pete, you are dead on as usual.

But, Uboat is not the one responsible for getting this guy help, or off the road.
I would question the church for enabling this smuck, if my understanding that they cut the check is accurate.

Even if Uboat had wanted to teach this guy a lesson, and even if the police might have pursued it -- the district attorney would not have prosecuted.
Ask me how I know.

You had a plow business? :D

Now that this has been settled, who has seen a Yeti or been probed by Aliens? LOL.

Crumpler 02-18-2014 06:11 PM

Ha!

This is getting way, way off topic. The ugly reality is that prosecutors are so overwhelmed, that even felony crimes are not often prosecuted aggressively unless they are violent crimes or drug related.

I have tried to prosecute two people over the years. Both clients that committed fraud.
One was a slam dunk felony arrest and it still got dismissed.

I think Mr. Plow would have been very low priority for the cops, with a recommendation to pursue it as a civil matter. Just sayin.

Tilikum Turbo 02-18-2014 08:30 PM

I think the guy was sorry alright...SORRY that you found out it was him who f--cked your car!!

Not for a second do I believe that was an "accident"...he tried to run from what he did.

Make SURE you report his no-insurance azz to the Police and get him OFF the road.

XLR8928 02-20-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fixer (Post 7918568)
You had a plow business? :D

Now that this has been settled, who has seen a Yeti or been probed by Aliens? LOL.

I assure you... there are no aliens, no probings, and lastly, Obamacare, all other such programs are wonderful ideas!:D

curtisr 02-21-2014 02:48 PM

Still not seeing any itty-bitty fender bits...


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