guide me to replace header clips!!

[ketchum951]

Ok I have my car 86 951 with ari conditioning working and heat at same time, so my mechanic took look both of the vacuum line where unplugged , and i left the car for testing at his shop, he just call me said now all vacuum line to header valve repolace and connected , but he said still sometimes we get hot air and sometimes not, he told me need new climate control unit 750.00 plus labor 400.00 and after reading and reading same problems with other 944 owners that had hot air mixing with cool air I'm thinking to check waht everyother person refere as the header clips before spend fortune! I went to Clark's garage couldn't understand the location and how to check the header clips how and where to look for them , that dash need to be take apart for check them? or not Please can you guys post some pictures self explanatory of the dam header clips location and steep by steep how can I replace them in case they need! thanks

[#391]

Originally Posted by ketchum951

Ok I have my car 86 951 with ari conditioning working and heat at same time, so my mechanic took look both of the vacuum line where unplugged , and i left the car for testing at his shop, he just call me said now all vacuum line to header valve repolace and connected , but he said still sometimes we get hot air and sometimes not, he told me need new climate control unit 750.00 plus labor 400.00 and after reading and reading same problems with other 944 owners that had hot air mixing with cool air I'm thinking to check waht everyother person refere as the header clips before spend fortune! I went to Clark's garage couldn't understand the location and how to check the header clips how and where to look for them , that dash need to be take apart for check them? or not Please can you guys post some pictures self explanatory of the dam header clips location and steep by steep how can I replace them in case they need! thanks

Look up under the dash just to the right of the steering column. You'll see a thin metal rod with a threaded end pointing downward. There should be a clip attaching that rod to a lever as shown on clarks.

'Easiest' way I've found is to fully recline the seat and lay in the seat upside down with your head under the dash. Then be prepared for the intense headrush when you are finished and stand back up.

[#391]

Looks like this...

[ketchum951]

i called mechanic and ask about the clips he said that just in old car and bla bla,bla..... he got kind hungry by phone and said " I diagnosed faulty mode of the climate controls because is not recognizing this and this I didn't really understand what he was saying some faulty mode of the climate control wasn't recognizing, cold or hot, because he said system keeps open header valve, he insure he check and didn't find anything bad with the header valve, he is charging me 240 just for pug the vacuum lines correctly and tell me that climate in not good!! and sometimes works fine sometimes no!!!is that crazy or what , I guess he wants to screw me more with 1400 in climate new control and labor , I will get brand new clips and change it in shop before pick up car!! will be nice that in fact that could be my problem , and save my self $%%$ by way is not true there is 2 clips where is other and what are pelican part number!!

[2Tight]

All you need to know about the broken heater clip is right here. Be careful with your mechanic, he sounds like he's looking for a nice Christmas at your expense.

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/hvac-01.htm

[Stealthgrey951]

Went through the same thing myself. The other poster's advice is excellent. Once you've folded, spindled, and mutilated yourself into a comfy position under the dash (take a flashlight) you can look up and towards the center and see the the rod with the white clip easily. If the rod isn't attached it's probably due to a broken clip. You can manipulate the heater controls from down there and watch the action of the lever the clip is on. If it rotates, your vacuum lines and control unit are ok. If I remember correctly, the rod moves a damper plate directing the air to the heater core.

[nize]

are you still using the same mechanic that destroyed your car previously? if this is a different mechanic, how do you manage to find all these shady shops?

[ketchum951]

yes this is same guy when i went to pick up car to pay 14000 I test drove it and it drove like new , but noted the head in my a/c! i that when car stay there for 2 more week until, he call me asking for $$ repair, what maybe is true or maybe is just clips, he had other 944 non turbo in shop and he used that car to check vacuum digram of header, and check my car waht let me know the guys is no really pro in 944, but he fix my 951 surging problem, wich at end he said was bad ground, a bad ignition wire and totally bad manual boost controler(spring broke inside) that caused car over boost and over boost protection computer gave poor mixture and surging, !!!I guess he test alot of things ,a nd last one he found real issue mbc, charge me 240 for new wires that said Porsche(((I guess he rip me there , 65 for new boost controler, 40 for new vacuum lines , and almost 1100 for labor 12hrs, hed put new oil red line , new sparks also!!!!! is live in Idaho there is just two good german shops, I try both and this guy fixed cost me fortune yes but car is running!!