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Need help! M044/51 with M758

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Option codes:

030 F SPORTFAHRWERK
139 F SITZHEIZUNG LINKER SITZ
197 F STAERKERE BATTERIE
220 F SPERRDIFFERENTIAL
288 F SCHEINWERFER-REINIGUNGSANLAGE
326 F RADIO BLAUPUNKT BERLIN IQR 87 M.ARI
340 F SITZHEIZUNG RECHTER SITZ
418 F FLANKENSCHUTZLEISTEN
437 F KOMFORTSITZ LINKS ELEKTR.VERSTELLB.
438 F KOMFORTSITZ RECHTS ELEKTR.VERSTELLB
462 F SEKURIFLEXFOLIE F.WINDSCHUTZSCHEIBE
490 F KLANGPAKET (OHNE BOOSTER)
573 F KLIMAANLAGE
593 F ABS-ANLAGE (ANTIBLOCKIERSYSTEM)
685 F GETEILTE RUECKSITZLEHNE
758 F SONDERMODELL 944 TURBO WW
983 F LEDERSITZE VO+HI (BEZUG)

Looks like a real "S"?
But engine type is M44/51

I would like to hear from someone experienced on these cars....

By the way: which color code is Q1Q1?

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758 – Special model 944 Turbo 1988
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Ok... So,not an "S"...?
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M44/51 is the BASE turbo block...M44/52 is the "S" block. It would appear that the engine was replaced at some time. Replacement blocks all had the M44/51 designation...check the engine number, if it's on a tab at the rear right side (by the exhaust manifold) it's an 88 or later block, if it's located on the back of the block (near heater valve) it's an 86 or 87 block, and NOT a dealer replacement engine.

My 1988 Turbo S has a dealer installed replacement engine (replaced in 1989 according to the dealer receipt) and it has the M44/51 designation (serial number matches the number on the receipt).

Your option codes would indicate that it is a Turbo S, but with a replacement engine.

Your option codes are:

030 Club Sport Package (Suspension package)
139 Heated Seat, Left
197 Higher Amperage Battery
220 Limited Slip Differential
288 Headlight Washers
326 Blaupunkt Berlin Radio
340 Heated Seat, Right
418 Protective Side Mouldings
437 Comfort Seat, Left
438 Full Power Seat, Right
462 Sekuriflex Windshield
490 Sound Package (10 speakers)
573 Air Conditioner
593 Bosch ABS
685 Divided Rear Seat (option code is used twice)
685 944 Luggage Boot Cover
758 Special Model 944 Turbo 1988 Turbo S
983 Leather Seats, Front and Rear

Source: www.964uk.com/Documents/Porsche%20Option%20Codes.pdf

I show no paint code Q1Q1. What color does it appear to be? Solid? Metallic? I see that you live in Portugal, it is possible that it is either a color not available in the US, or for some reason they use a different color coding in Europe.

From your option codes, I see that it is a 1988 Turbo S (with a replacement engine block). Is it a Metallic Silver with a pinkish tint? If so, that Silberrossa Metallic, and they are actually the most sought and hardest to find of the 1988 Turbo S...roughly 750 Silver Rose made for worldwide distribution.

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Q1Q1 should be satin black metallic
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Jrboulder...Where did you find Satin Black Metallic listed as Q1Q1, my copy of the Porsche Paint Manual Supplement 2 (WKD 482620.02 Aug 1991) has Satin Black Metallic listed as LY9Y. I don't have any Q code paint options listed.
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Paint codes are written on the sticker twice. I guess it goes back to the two-tone days. Really he has a Q1 paint code.

Every paint refrence chart lists "LY9Y Q1" I guess LY9Y is the Audi code and Q1 is the Porsche code.
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M44/51 is the BASE turbo block...M44/52 is the "S" block. It would appear that the engine was replaced at some time. Replacement blocks all had the M44/51 designation...check the engine number, if it's on a tab at the rear right side (by the exhaust manifold) it's an 88 or later block, if it's located on the back of the block (near heater valve) it's an 86 or 87 block, and NOT a dealer replacement engine.

My 1988 Turbo S has a dealer installed replacement engine (replaced in 1989 according to the dealer receipt) and it has the M44/51 designation (serial number matches the number on the receipt).

Your option codes would indicate that it is a Turbo S, but with a replacement engine.

Your option codes are:

030 Club Sport Package (Suspension package)
139 Heated Seat, Left
197 Higher Amperage Battery
220 Limited Slip Differential
288 Headlight Washers
326 Blaupunkt Berlin Radio
340 Heated Seat, Right
418 Protective Side Mouldings
437 Comfort Seat, Left
438 Full Power Seat, Right
462 Sekuriflex Windshield
490 Sound Package (10 speakers)
573 Air Conditioner
593 Bosch ABS
685 Divided Rear Seat (option code is used twice)
685 944 Luggage Boot Cover
758 Special Model 944 Turbo 1988 Turbo S
983 Leather Seats, Front and Rear

Source: www.964uk.com/Documents/Porsche%20Option%20Codes.pdf

I show no paint code Q1Q1. What color does it appear to be? Solid? Metallic? I see that you live in Portugal, it is possible that it is either a color not available in the US, or for some reason they use a different color coding in Europe.

From your option codes, I see that it is a 1988 Turbo S (with a replacement engine block). Is it a Metallic Silver with a pinkish tint? If so, that Silberrossa Metallic, and they are actually the most sought and hardest to find of the 1988 Turbo S...roughly 750 Silver Rose made for worldwide distribution.

Thanks for the info.
I will check that.

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