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04 gt3 purchase

Hello all, (I also put this in another forum)

I have come here looking for advice on the purchase of an 04 gt3, that's $51,000. The car is immaculate, no accidents, no paintwork, perfect interior, a little rock spray on the nose), and it's a blk/blk car.

Simple question...this car has 20k mi., 5k of which have been on a track (not raced, no roll bar), how many miles am I giving up in street miles at let's say 4,000rpm's with minimal pounding abuse, (can you even do that in one of these?)

In other words, I figure these 5k mi. have been spent at 6k-7k rpm's, do you think that is too much abuse to consider for a long term driver? I'm trying to equate track miles into street driven miles, 5k track = ? street miles. Plus considering clutch abuse and anything else that might be verrry expensive to fix too soon, let alone the $33k motor!! New tires, brake pads, rotors and recent service have been performed.

Normally I would not buy a car that has been tracked, but these cars are hard to find with relatively low miles unless they are in the high $50-$60,000's. I will use this as a driver for about 6k miles a year.

Thank you for your help.

(I will also be selling a 97 blk/blk c2s, 30k miles, not the least bit abused)

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I'm not sure there is a good way to figure out what 5K track miles is equal to. It really depends on how hard it was driven. Have a PPI done at a good shop with a Porsche scanner. They can tell you how many type 1 and type 2 (bad) over revs it has had. They should be able to tell you the hours as well.

Keep in mind, track engines are figured in hours not miles. On my desk, I have a titanium connecting rod out of a GT3 race engine with 300 hours on it if that tells you anything.

Ask the owner to estimate how many track days or events he went to.
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There's no such thing as driving lightly on the track. 5,000 track miles, that's a TON! If most courses are about 2 miles, that's 2500 laps. I would probably stay away from a car that had that much track time. BUT, I think that it's probably much less than that, as that is a lot...

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I guess any service contract would be voided since it was raced. You might check and see if Porsche will still do repairs since its under 100,000 miles. There are deals you can get on repair from Porsche.
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I like Wayne's approach. Let's try some simple math on this.

If you figure an average track mph of 80 and at most DE you have 4 x 30 minute sessions a day, that is 160 track miles a day. If the car had 5000 track miles, that about 30 track days.

A lot of cars start getting tired at that point, not sure about a GT3 though.

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