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05-17-2021 03:52 AM |
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Originally Posted by creaturecat
(Post 11331519)
respectfully - the 964 being easier to work on? certainly hasn't been my experience - even something as simple as an oil change is a miserable experience, comparatively speaking. : )
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Originally Posted by Nick Triesch
(Post 11331760)
Interesting how no one has said that the nose and tail of the 964 is just plain heavy and ugly looking.
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Originally Posted by Nick Triesch
(Post 11332227)
The g body cars are what kids had on their walls in the 80’s .
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I just tagged a few of these but the reposes are so subjective!! Ugly/pretty is all a personal preference yet the comments are thrown around as fact which might be your fact but not everyones. I never liked the accordion bumpers but leaned to live with them. I had a Countach poster on my wall but you couldn't get me to buy one.
I purchased my first 911 in 1977 a 911 E later sold it for a very nice 79 SC which proved to be very disappointing ride compared to the 911E. The E was faster and more fun all around and made some wonderful noises but had you watching your tail far more often. After that a 3.0RS WB clone. It solved my hatred for the bellows bumpers with the factory IROC bits (more similar to the 964 bumpers) and had everything over any G body I have driven up to that time with a Max Moritz built engine and RS suspension. I regretfully sold that car after 19 years of ownership but still had little over a well setup 964 IMO. I never liked the afterthought bumpers as I stated they used on the G-body cars. Looks are subjective and as many love the 993 over the 964 I find the 964 to be the most attractive of them all so we can stop using that as an argument.
From a mechanical perspective IMO the G-body cars IMO were poorly designed and built. Porsche sat on its behind for years as they made minor improvements but fixed very few of the inherent problems for well over a decade of the Gbody and some things going back to the initial 901 design. I work on Porsche's of all vintage all day everyday 5 days or more a week. Helping out at Apex Autowerks or RSR restoration working on all sorts of 911's from mechanicals to full bodywork. I do it for fun keeps me out of trouble in my retirement years and every time I tare down an SC or 3.2 I always shake my head and struggle with the mess they sold to the public for far too long. General shade tree mechanics is less complicated by design on a Gbody but once you get past that it is not as straight forward as a 964 which simplified many things.
Porsche IMO has messed up more good cars over the years. Every model has its issues and it seems when they finally get something right as I see it they go ahead and change 100% of the design causing a new set of headaches.
If you don't like the looks of the 964 buy another 911 or a prius for all I care but when the argument is about looks and limited mechanical knowledge regarding these cars not much one can say to get someone to see the light.
Funny my friend Pino at RSR Restorations restores some of the finest Air-cooled 911's. Many featured in Excellence and 000 magazine and his personal favorite to work on and favorite all around 911 is the 964. He and I both see eye to eye on this and this is from someone who has at least 10 911's being worked on in his shop at any given time.
Yo don't have to like this but to my eye the 3.8RSR is one of the best looking cars of all time and I put that up there with some great classics. I would take this over any Gbody or long nose in his shop. Although I built this car from the ground up so I am a bit biased.
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