@BaT 1982 Turbo Thoughts?

[Macroni]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-porsche-930-turbo-10/

Thoughts?

[JMS935]

The worst fake Porsche documentation in history. How the hell does the seller not realize it’s bogus?!? Not only is it not on any sort of Porsche letterhead, but it’s signed by a Dr. Tng Porschr. Who the f..k is that? It’s unreal how stupid and gullible some people are, but I do think it’s a cool car nonetheless, whoever did the bodywork. That doc will definitely sidetrack the auction on an otherwise cool RUF 930.

[Matt Monson]

Dr Ting Porschr from the Beijing field office?

[JMS935]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Dr Ting Porschr from the Beijing field office?

You gave him a vowel Matt, it’s just a grab bag of consonants. I wonder how that’s supposed to be pronounced. LoL

[Rostami6]

You do not have to do much to be able to tell this is not a factory slantnose.

[JMS935]

Special Wishes did offer a fiberglass boxed rocker as an option to the WLS cars that looks just like that one, so they did offer that rocker at some point. The front valance also looks like a Special Wishes part, but the brake vent fins numbering at only 2 and the fender slots numbering at 9, is nothing that Porsche ever did that I’m aware of.

[IS300]

pop up headlights?,

[JMS935]

Gainesville is spelled wrong as well, I don’t think there’s anywhere in the US where it’s spelled without an ‘e’.

I like the 13th of 42 built that year too, as if Porsche would even know that info for a Special Wishes build, and even if they did, they’d never put in writing like this.

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by IS300

pop up headlights?,

Not necessarily on the first ones

[nathanbs]

Lock pillar says date of manufacturer 1984

[gumba]

I’m guessing not legal in most states due to headlight height,or lack of.

[Alan A]

Googling the vin is fun. A few to get you started.

https://www.thelastdetail.com/1982-porsche-930-slantnose-c-914.htm
https://www.classic.com/veh/1982-porsche-930-s-slant-nose-sonderwunsche-wp0zzz-nX3ebV4/
1982 Porsche RUF Turbo

[Rostami6]

Originally Posted by JMS935

Special Wishes did offer a fiberglass boxed rocker as an option to the WLS cars that looks just like that one, so they did offer that rocker at some point. The front valance also looks like a Special Wishes part, but the brake vent fins numbering at only 2 and the fender slots numbering at 9, is nothing that Porsche ever did that I’m aware of.

I wasn’t aware of the boxed rocker. I agree with you on the other things you point out. But at here are too many flags going up on this one.

[speednme1]

Originally Posted by JMS935

The worst fake Porsche documentation in history. How the hell does the seller not realize it’s bogus?!? Not only is it not on any sort of Porsche letterhead, but it’s signed by a Dr. Tng Porschr. Who the f..k is that? It’s unreal how stupid and gullible some people are, but I do think it’s a cool car nonetheless, whoever did the bodywork. That doc will definitely sidetrack the auction on an otherwise cool RUF 930.

The rest of the paperwork does have a Porsche letterhead and looks to be signed by Porsche....interesting car

[speednme1]

here's one for comparison https://www.luxuryautocollection.com/inventory/used-1982-porsche-911-turbo-s-930-“slant-nose”-or-“flachbau”-1-of-42-rear-wheel-drive-coupe-wp0zzz93zcs000938

[L Sjoberg]

the missing umlaut in the department name on that letter is a highlight for me. fraud is fraud.

[Mocker]

The front valence and Ruf 5-speed are legit. Maybe the rockers. The rest (fenders, scoops, decklid, etc.) probably not.

[Mehoff]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

Lock pillar says date of manufacturer 1984

Nathanbs, saw you put a good number bid out on this thing. Peanut gallery seemed to lean towards a fake, and that documentation and odd mishmash of parts looked crazy suspect. I don’t know anything about special wishes cars and even less about slant nose 930’s; what made you think it was legit?

Serious question, I’d like to hear your thoughts after that whipsaw auction.

[trader220]

I though the entire auction was very entertaining.

There were some characters who were 100% sure every thing was legit and they were not afraid to say it over and over, as if they were some sort of authority. Then there were new comments from people who had never made a peep on BAT just popping up to say they know the car and its totally legit. It was like watching a train wreck, I just couldn't turn away.

There is quite a collection of people who pop up on every air cooled auction, they try to assert themselves as an expert, when in reality it appears as if they know almost nothing about these cars.

[rlane930]

Originally Posted by trader220

I though the entire auction was very entertaining.

There were some characters who were 100% sure every thing was legit and they were not afraid to say it over and over, as if they were some sort of authority.

LOL, and some of the characters post here under different user names. Reading the comments is exhausting and you can pick out the cheerleaders posting without any real evidence.

I've always wondered why date stamps are not photographed but perhaps when they don't line up with the story, sellers are shy to post. Doesn't a RUF transmission have a date code? Seats, RUF speedo, wheels, etc., all have date stamps/codes but they don't post...why? It takes less than 5 minutes to pull out a speedo and photograph the date stamp but this is almost never done on Porsche BAT auctions.