Why is there no Panamera forum here?

[KFC911]

Mebbe Wayne's "1 Project for Your Panamera" has to come out first...chicken or egg....who knows?

[stealthn]

Originally Posted by KC911

Mebbe Wayne's "1 Project for Your Panamera" has to come out first...chicken or egg....who knows?

Yes I think that will be which watch goes best with which interior options

[Don Plumley]

Originally Posted by stealthn

Haters gonna hate

I disliked the first Cayenne too until I drove one, and eventually bought a turbo, it was an awesome machine with zero issues.

I don't care what you say I am taking my Panamera and going home

Yup. I loved my 2013 Cayenne. Great car.

David Ray took me around Laguna Seca in a Panamera on Hot Laps when they introduced the car to the US. He said, "you can't imagine how capable this car is around the track."

Looking forward to hearing more about your Panamera experience.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by GothingNC

You need to go to the Insane Garage forum

InsaneGarage.com - Porsche Panamera Club enthusiast hub with DIYs, tech tips and Forums

Good call.
It barely made page one of a Google search for "Panamera forum"

[brainz01]

The RL Forums do get involved DIY advice on the watercooled cars once they're suitably old. Once any of these cars his 10 years old, the DIY base is actually pretty decent for 99% of what you'd want to do. I frequent the Cayenne (955/957) and 997 forums there and there are actually engine pulling and rebuilding instructions for both models. Common problems will get DIYs much sooner than 10 years.

As mentioned, the biggest challenges tend not to be the physical repairs, but anything custom requiring the electronics to re-coded. That's the stuff that's annoying/terrifying as only the dealer can do it and they tend to not be as helpful (or inexpensive) as desired. As an example: Getting a new key coded or adding or removing items like a CD Changer or Cell Phone module will all require the Dealer to program through their exclusive PIWIS system.

But for ordinary trouble shooting, the modern electronics can actually be helpful as they do a lot of self diagnosing and can tell you what failed. And there are reasonably affordable scanners including Durametric and x431 EZ Diag that can read/log pretty much all the modules/sensors and tell you what's working and what's not. Typically sensors can be replaced without issue -- just reset the DTCs and off you go; sometimes entire modules (like a transmission control module, for example) must be coded to the "system" and that requires a Dealer visit (or in some cases an Independent with really good software). Fortunately (knock on wood), module failures are relatively rare, and when they happen, they tend to be straight forward -- replace module, activate it on system, test, pay your money, weep.

I don't know much about the Panameras other than they share a lot of drivetrain components and system layouts with the Cayennes. If I owned a Panamera and didn't find what I was looking for in that sub-form, I'd check out the comparable Cayenne forum for help.

Hope that helps.

[onewhippedpuppy]

The reality is that Pelican sucks for anything water cooled. Rennlist is better for the 944, 928, 996+ 911, Boxster/Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera, etc. It's been that way ever since I had my first 951 over a decade ago.

I still don't think the Panamera is a pretty car, but the right wheels make a big difference. I do love the capability and performance. Once our first kid is older and driving we'll be getting rid of my wife's Ford Flex for a Panamera, because she loves them.

[manbridge 74]

Been driving this about. Kinda fun..

[plexiform]

Originally Posted by norm k

i want to like them. I've tried to like them. I'm certain the car is one of the nicest sedans on the planet.

Don't like them.

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+1

[stealthn]

All good stuff and honest opinions. I’ve always been car car or suv driver until we had a dog and had to pull a trailer, so I got a truck. I disliked driving it and still do, but I “needed to”. Now thatI don’t need to I want to enjoy long road trips and driving in the winter; hence the Panamera.

We spend about 3 years of our lives driving so I want to enjoy it.

[RSBob]

Drove a couple of Panameras on the track during the Porsche Driving Experience and they were fantastic. Extremely fast, handled like they were on rails and super comfy. If I had the money, I would own one.

Why no forum on Pelican? Easy answer, most people who can afford them don’t work on their own cars or private jets or yachts.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

That color changes the entire character of the car and makes it significantly less ugly. It seems to shorten the car to my eye.

I have a friend with a Panamera and she loves it. Drives like she would her Cayman before it and Boxster before that.

Once they get to $20K at the tipping point of 944/928 syndrome, I could see getting one and putting a Gemini Blue wrap on it. Or maybe Rubystone Red but would probably be too much.

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

[DavidI]

I work on my 2011 4S Panamera and love the car! I have owned a 1967 912 and a 1983 SC for most of my adult life. This Panamera rocks!!!

[nb6179505]

Originally Posted by DavidI

I work on my 2011 4S Panamera and love the car! I have owned a 1967 912 and a 1983 SC for most of my adult life. This Panamera rocks!!!

Looks good! What size are the wheels? Did you lower it? I can't remember if yours has air suspension, looking for options for my panamera turbo

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[DavidI]

nb, the rim sizes are 22'' and it has an air suspension. The only complaint that I have about the car is the faulty air suspension. The front passenger side one has a slow leak that drops down about 2" after two days of not driving it. It reinflates after starting the car, but this is a common fault of these cars.

Other than that, it is outstanding in every way!

[pksystems]

To do a service to those gifted with eyesight?

[manbridge 74]

Usually the air suspension fails at the upper seal/o-ring which is easily replaced without having to buy the whole unit. Pretty common. Generally it’s not a good idea to put off repair because it can lead to an overworked compressor then compressor failure (expensive).

[stealthn]

Just finished the coils, plugs, cabin and air filter on mine (will post pics later), but come on Porsche, remove the whole front bumper to change the air filter?!

Up next, oil change, front brakes and tranny fluid change.... yeah people don’t work on them.

The turbo is a beast.

[manbridge 74]

The good thing about replacing the coils is you get the newest version (Porsche is on the 14th revision of coil!) made by Borg Warner and not the prone to fail Beru.

Air filter is really not that bad considering all the tight packaging involved to meet the styling and performance goals.

[epbrown]

Originally Posted by stealthn

Just finished the coils, plugs, cabin and air filter on mine (will post pics later), but come on Porsche, remove the whole front bumper to change the air filter?!

Yeah, people say owners don't work on their cars but really the car companies actively discourage it. When I had a BMW Z4 there were typical jobs that required removing the front bumper - not repairs, but ordinary maintenance. Heck, even modern motorcycles are getting bad to work on.

[Ferraripete]

I think the turbo panamera is quite a performer and was only 10 seconds off the alfa romeo QV around the nurburgring.