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Porsche celebrates 70 years with a new model & the "TayCan"

Congratulations to Porsche for 70 years of Porsche Sports Cars! In Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen, Germany they unveiled the 911 Speedster Concept and gave its first all-electric sports car, previously known as the Mission E, the name Taycan. The 911 Speedster Concept is a forge between the very first Porsche 356 ‘No. 1' Roadster and the brand's latest technology. What do you think about the Mission E's new name and the 911 Speedster Concept?



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I guess all the good names were taycan?
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I like the car, don't much care for the name.
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Would work, but believe it's pronounced tie-con.
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I like it. I really like the Speedster look and they have done it well here.
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I wonder when we'll see a TouCan.
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Can't stand the name and neither can I stand the paint job on the speedster concept. If only Mr. Lapine was still in charge...
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what a terrible name. why can't they just do what germans do best and stick with numbers?
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Would work, but believe it's pronounced tie-con.
Well then they should change the dang speeling ....I ain'ts that smart....

...but know a stupid name when I hears one
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I was surprised that the Taycan or a model of it isn't there at the Canter in Carson this weekend. It was a zoo there.
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The speedster is nice. I like the Fuchs look rims but the need some refinement, edges are to sharp.
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Ok first we fire the guy who comes up with these car names .........
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The speedster 911 will look nice once it's painted normally. The 356 tub paint on the modern car just does not work for me... Another model they will sell in limited #s to 918 owners ?

Taycan is not a good name... Should have something that evokes electricity in the name...
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That's a badass car. I remember when the first 911 speedsters came out and buyers were paying huge amounts over sticker. Many were speculating. But it was a Speedster so why isn't this simply a continuation?

Or the popular word de jour, reboot. So, it's a Neu Starten then.

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You can drive your TayCan while listening to ChanChan.

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Porsche just released specs of the new Taycan.

“The first electric sports car from Porsche, after all, should run like clockwork in even the toughest conditions.” Read the full press release below:

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Mission E
Breaking new ground and promptly taking the lead. Doing everything differently yet still decisively stamping classic Porsche virtues on the electric era. The world expects no more and no less of the first purely electric Porsche when it makes its debut in 2019. A dossier on the subject of electromobility.

> 600 hp (440 kW)
The Taycan stands for total system performance.

800 V
The components of the Taycan drive system work with this voltage. New terrain, even for the prototype builders.

Ca. 40 specialists
build the prototypes of the Taycan at Porsche.

3 figures
worth of prototypes of the Taycan have been built to date. The exact number? Confidential!

> 500 km
With a range of over 500 kilometers, the Taycan isn’t just sporty—it’s also practical.

> 600 hp
are packed and ready for action by two permanently excited synchronous motors (PSM).

800 V
is the voltage with which the components of the Taycan’s drive system works.

< 3.5 sec.
is all the Taycan needs to go from 0 to 100 kmh. The enormous torque from the very first rev delivers sporty acceleration.


→ The situation
Greater environmental protection, new markets, less dependence on fossil fuels: mobility and automobile manufacturing in particular are being reimagined. The ongoing development of electromobility is a future-shaping topic in the industry worldwide. It’s the key to environmentally friendly mobility. Policy is an important factor here. By 2020 European auto manufacturers have to bring their new cars up to a fleet average of just ninety-five grams of carbon dioxide emissions per kilometer.

And the number of electric vehicles worldwide is indeed on the march. The total number of electrically powered cars reached some 3.2 million in early 2018. That’s a 55 percent increase over the previous year. The figure includes all vehicles charged with electricity, such as plug-in hybrids. The market is driven primarily by China. There are currently over 1.2 million electric cars there, with 579,000 of them added in 2017 alone. In the US, the number of electric vehicles rose by 195,000 in 2017 to a total of over 750,000. Germany has comparatively low figures, but they did rise by 54,490 to 92,740 vehicles in total. The share of new registrations came in at 1.6 percent. If the growth rate stays near the level of 2017, the number of annual new registrations for electric vehicles worldwide will exceed twenty-five million by 2025.

For Porsche the future is electric. The company wants to shift to electromobility before all other German auto manufacturers. By 2025 the aim is for every second Porsche sold to have an electric drive unit, with half of the models purely electric and the other half plug-in hybrids. Porsche will release its first electric model, the Taycan sports car, in 2019. Current estimates project roughly twenty thousand units a year. That would be equivalent to roughly two-thirds of the current sales figures for the 911.

→ The challenges
Electrification in the carmaking field is driven in equal measure by regulations in the areas of nitrogen oxides and CO₂ and urbanization. The world is gathering in cities—everywhere. Since 2007 as many people have lived in cities as in rural areas. In parts of Asia and Africa, urbanization is reaching a breakneck pace. Megacities like Tokyo, Mumbai, and Shanghai provide a glimpse of the course of advancing urbanization.

The effects on the automotive industry are immense. The most important task for Porsche is to play a role in shaping these changes—with vehicles that are sporty, unique in terms of design, and marked by high day-to-day usability thanks to a high range. The challenges: How do you create an electric vehicle that sets new standards in terms of performance and efficiency, driving dynamics, and day-to-day usability? How do you compensate for the weight of the batteries? What can enable an electric vehicle to feel like a typical Porsche?

→ The Porsche way
For the first purely electric Porsche, the engineers in Weissach developed a drive concept based on the principle of intelligent performance—a principle woven into the fiber of every Porsche. “We opted for a permanently excited synchronous motor in the Taycan,” reports Heiko Mayer, drive unit project leader. “They combine a high energy density with strong sustained performance and maximum efficiency.” Two permanently excited synchronous motors (PSM), like those deployed in the Le Mans–winning 919 Hybrid, generate a permanent rotary motion that can be applied at any time without needing to be started—a technical feat achieved by having a permanently magnetized rotor forced into a rotary motion by the magnetic field of the stator.

PSM electric motors are the turbos of the electric motor milieu. They boast both extremely high sustained performance and maximum efficiency. One motor powers the Taycan’s rear axle, the other the front wheels. Together they generate over 600 hp (440 kW) and are fed by batteries designed to provide five hundred kilometers of range. The Taycan sprints from 0 to 100 kmh in well under 3.5 seconds and tops 200 kmh in under 12. The PSM drives convert electrical energy into power with great efficiency, smoothness, and sustained output while generating relatively little heat. A Porsche with electric drive technology is naturally track-ready as well.

The PSM motors also enable a very compact design. As Mayer observes, “That makes it possible to make the motors and batteries smaller and lighter with the same power figures.” And to save even more space, the electric motors’ solenoid coils feature a so-called hairpin technology design. “The coils are made of wires that aren’t round, but rather rectangular,” explains Naser Abu Daqqa, director of electric drive systems at Porsche. “This makes it possible to pack the wires more tightly and get more copper into the coil machines—increasing power and torque with the same volume.” The Taycan’s power electronics are also fine-tuned for efficiency. The inverters that convert the battery’s direct current into alternating current for the electric motor don’t work with a fixed pulse frequency as is common, but with a steplessly variable pulse frequency. “So the motor always runs at the optimal operating point,” explains Mayer. Intelligent performance is also delivered by the cooling system. Temperature sensors detect the cooling requirements in real time, while software ensures that the cooling water is immediately directed to the right spots. If the driver floors it, the cooling kicks into high gear as well, ensuring constant power.
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→ The Porsche way
Speed instead of weight—the Weissach motto. Rather than installing heavy batteries, Porsche opts for fast charging. Electricity flows through some four hundred cells, which are connected both serially and in parallel. Each individual cell has a current of roughly 4 volts. Controlled by the battery management system, this all amounts to the 800-volt battery, in simplified terms. “It was a major challenge to achieve such enormous battery capacity both for charging and discharging over the entire temperature range,” says Nora Lobenstein, head of all energy storage systems at Porsche. The solutions are an intelligent charging protocol and an efficient heat exchanger system that quickly gets the batteries up to operating temperature and reliably cools them under heavy loads—for example, during a sudden spike in power usage or during rapid charging. The objective of the Porsche fast-charging system: four hundred kilometers of range in about fifteen minutes. Aside from the short travel breaks for charging, another payoff of the 800-volt technology is the thinner cables in the car. That saves weight.

But for Lobenstein, the topic of batteries doesn’t end there. Sustainability is more than just a marketing term in Weissach. Porsche developers are already intensively studying how the Taycan’s batteries can be reused in the future. After all, a Porsche has an extremely long life cycle, longer than the vehicles of other brands. The batteries should have the same. A second life, at any rate.

→ Charging
800 V
The new generation of charging stations is designed for 800-volt technology. But it’s also downward-compatible for all vehicles on the market with 400-volt technology.

15 minutes
The Taycan is ready for the next four hundred kilometers in roughly fifteen minutes.

10 inches
The large touch display is designed to allow optimal readability even in bright sunlight.

CCS
Porsche employs the Combined Charging System as the standard in Europe and the US for alternating current (AC) charging and direct current (DC) charging. For Japan and China, Porsche will offer the local standards.



→ The situation
Great distances between charging stations, no standard payment model, competing connection systems, inadequate power grids—the simple matter of getting new energy into empty batteries is anything but. International standards for adequate geographical coverage with modern charging stations for millions of electric vehicles? Still in the works. There’s a fundamental distinction between conductive and inductive charging. With conductive charging, energy is transmitted between the vehicle and the power grid through charging cables and a plug system. With inductive charging, the energy is transmitted between the vehicle and the power grid without cables through electromagnetic induction.

With conductive charging, or charging with a cable, a distinction is made between alternating current (AC) charging with a conventional 400-volt plug connection, with charging capacities of up to 22 kW, and direct current (DC) charging, with charging capacities of up to 350 kW. AC charging is normally used at home or at the workplace, while DC charging is used for fast charging on the go. For AC charging, a permanently installed wallbox or a suitable charging cable is required as the connection between the power socket and the vehicle. At public AC charging stations, a special cable with a CCS connector suffices.

The additional energy needs through 2025 will likely remain modest. Estimated increases in energy demand due to electromobility will be moderate in the different regions, with substantial jumps in demand only expected in the period through 2035. The primary reason: development in China.

→ The challenges
Step out of the car, open the tank cap, fill up, pay—and get back on the road in a few minutes. That’s been the drill for drivers until now. The technology required for charging electric vehicles is in fact already in place, with the expansion of a charging infrastructure already in the works across Europe. But enabling an uncomplicated and fast-charging procedure for electric vehicles on motorways and urban areas requires international coordination and agreements—no easy task, to be sure. Policy answers are needed. The spottily available rapid-charging stations that currently exist seldom offer more than fifty kilowatts. It takes roughly an hour of charging time to deposit enough electrons in the battery to power the next stretch of 250 kilometers. The operative questions, therefore: How can we charge faster? How can we get enough universal charging points? And how can we strengthen weak power grids?
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