Are '74s and '75s the next 911 market to heat up?

anthony · 08-03-2006, 05:35 PM

About six years ago I came really close to buying a mint looking 80K miles '74 911. It was priced at only $6K which even then was probably a screaming deal. I imagine that today the car would fetch maybe $10-12K.

I'm sure the SC I ended up with is a better car in many ways but I imagine, like my '74 914, the mid years have a more vintage feel to them. They have the narrow body look and they are also lighter by 200 pounds over an SC.

At least in CA the '74 and '75 will be smog exempt forever. They also didn't have the reactor manifolds.

I'm just wondering if anyone else things that nice examples of a '74/75 are maybe the next to pop up in value, maybe ultimately exceeding equal condition SCs in value?

real550A · real550A's Garage

Once you get into the impact bumper years, I think the unique models, ie; Carreras, will bring a premium.
After that, it's going to be hard to beat a factory flared, galvanized SC for most applications. Just my honest opinion, of course.

Todd Simpson · 08-04-2006, 03:12 PM

Yes, they have some advantages but as noted they're not galvanized nor flared.

They also still have a 2.7, CIS and impact bumpers. Blah....

Fidalgo911S · 08-04-2006, 06:09 PM

Just to throw in my .02, I kinda hope not. I bought my '74S because it was inexpensive and a really great car to drive. Once it gets too valuable, for me, to take on the road for fear of the lurking van with the 2X6 bumper, it's less fun.

What's with the bad vibes about 2.7 and CIS? She's fast! Faster than a '72S I drove a couple of years back....up until 80 MPH, but you can't do that on the way to work.

anthony · 08-04-2006, 07:17 PM

Don't '74 Carreras already sell for a large premium?

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Yes, they have some advantages but as noted they're not galvanized nor flared.

Not being galvanized also means there being much fewer of them around. Not being galvanized nor flared doesnt' seem to hinder any interest in the earlier cars.

Ok, so the consensus seems to be thumbs down on the '74-75s. One other thing that struck me was how few of them I see out there for sale - especially nice ones. On craigslist in my area there are always 10+ SCs to choose from. A single '74/75 seems to pop up only once a month or so.

real550A · real550A's Garage

'74-75 Euro Carreras w/MFI 2.7 command extra $$.
U.S. models w/CIS not so much, but a little over the non-flared cars.

Zeke · 08-05-2006, 04:47 PM

Well, FWIW, the '74-75 don't have to have bi-annual smog inspection in CA. So, IMO, they're worth more than a '76>. Plus, the 74 had the old two out HE's. In CA there is a technicality that the car must remain with the smog equipment it came with. IOW, if you were to be stopped because it smoked a little (we have sniffers along side of the road in places), you will have to see the smog man. Bottom line, the 74, is the one to look for if you can't find a <'73 for a price you can live with.

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Not really. I think maybe the 1974 cars will increase slightly, as I think they are pretty cool for that year. However, the 2.7 curse is really a dampener on pricing, no matter which way you spin it...

On the other hand, the 2.7RS has the same engine problems...

-Wayne

JP911 · JP911's Garage

At current prices, 74 and 75 911s are perfect for hotrodding in CA. Pre-74 cars have gotten so pricey. You can toss the 2.7 and build the monster of your choice without having registration problems due to smog. This is the route I've taken and I know others in the Bay Area who feel the same. Does this make a 74-75 worth more than an SC? Probably not, but it does make it worth more than a 76-77.

AshEvan · 09:26 PM

Nice original lines, no Thermals to cook the engine case, nice upgrades over earlier cars. Hey, the 65 -73 are not galvanized either, so 74's are the best of the litter for mid year cars. SC's are nice and bullet proof but 74's are lighter, lower in number and more raw than a refined SC. Just my two cents . . . . all 911's have followings.

GothingNC · 08-07-2006, 08:35 AM

They might be worth more on the West coast.

We don't have to worry about emissions on most of the early Porsche's over here in most states which means that a mid-year will (in comparison with a comparable condition SC) will most likely sell for less.

GothingNC · 08-08-2006, 02:47 PM

Here's a 75 Carrera Targa for $27,000

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=346057

There's was her 75 Carrera coupe that's listed for $25,000 in Raleigh that's in really nice shape but it's not listed anymore.

Is this the average price for a mid-year Carrera???

grudk · 08-09-2006, 02:38 PM

I would love to see them appreciate, since I have a '74 Carrera. But I'm not holding my breath.

Now that the real estate market is cooling (crashing), I expect values of collector cars to follow home prices down -- unless the dollar tanks more and they all go overseas (again)

Maybe in the next spec bubble...

AshEvan · 08-09-2006, 04:29 PM

Should have a nice sale value based on what I have seen.

racer · 08-09-2006, 04:43 PM

Every Porsche will have its day.. even the "dreaded" 2.7 middle cars. Why? because 80% of them have been butchered up. Turned into widebody cars with SC motors etc.

The number of original, 30+ year old cars is small to begin with. While their performance doesn't quite match that of the ones built before and after, they will increase in value due to plain scarceity

Porsche · Porsche's Garage

The 74-75 Carrera's have the same engines as the 73 RS hence their "collectability" and attractiveness. The later Carerra 3.0s are also rarer and have that extra attractiveness. But I don't think the other mid-year 2.7 CISs will appreciate as much as the pre-74s...

racer · 08-09-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Porsche
The 74-75 Carrera's have the same engines as the 73 RS hence their "collectability" and attractiveness. The later Carerra 3.0s are also rarer and have that extra attractiveness. But I don't think the other mid-year 2.7 CISs will appreciate as much as the pre-74s...

US spec '74-75 Carerras do NOT have the RS motor. They have the same motor as the 911S did. They DO have rear flares and were "limited" in qty. There was no US carerras for 76-77. The top of the line were the early Turbos.

Fidalgo911S · 08-09-2006, 06:58 PM

Erwin is from down under so his '74 Carrera's did have the 911/83 motor.

Erwin, not to get too OT, but I spent a week or so last year in Perth - Beautiful city, great people.