[aigel]

The issue here is that most cars currently cannot be bought at MSRP - at all. Markups around here are at least 5% for something boring, anything nice, 10% or more. A 992 GT3, about 30-50% currently.

I read that used cars are up 40% since early 2020. I bought a new truck and paid over MSRP but I will get it back on the old truck easily. Waiting a little for xmas to pass and maybe first people to get into their tax return checks.

No leasing for me. I buy new more often now but drive until I get tired of it, 5+ years, maybe even 10. Every year you can stretch it, you can get a better return. Modern vehicles don't really need much up to 100k miles, which is 7 years for me. Also the tech hasn't changed much on the actual vehicles. Safety, performance, gas mileage, all is pretty flat. It is only the center console screen you may like better on a new car.