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Originally posted by sonett43
as one of the four, I cannot figure out which one I was...must be number four....but certainly not the way the story went down.
Seems a price and attitude adjustment are in order.
-Lewis
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Well, I question whether I should respond here, but I will since you brought it up. To be honest, after talking to the Shop *I* probably woudn't have bought *my* car either from me. So no hard feelings towrds you except personal frustration at blantent mis-representation by the shop.
I went and talked to the shop guy yesterday picking up the car, and quite frankly I am not really sure how he even could have held himself as an expert. The whole targa bar thing was such a ludacris statement that I just gave up even trying to talk to him. he also mentioned dirt in the paint and overspray. I think he was a bit suprised when my wife wiped off the wax off the black trim with her finger.
One other item he mentioned was worn 1st gear synchros. He stated " I could only get the car in 1st gear 1 out of every 10 times". Now this is an occasional driver 45k miles car. it's been well cared for, never even been within 5 miles of a autocross or racetrack. My WIFE was able to hop in the car from the cold and drive up without any shifting issues.
WHILE IN THE CAR TALKING TO HIM in the parking lot rolling... I shifted it in 4 times in a row. Now, I have never said that it shifted like a new BMW, but I doubt it did new. I asked him "are the syncho's abnormally worn out for a 45k mi car OR do they need replaced shortly?" The only reply.. "well... no."
've never held the car out as a show car. The car has RS door panels, which I have aquired an orginal set if someone were desired to put it back to original. I The pictures posted and my comments clearly indicate that I have cleaned up the interior, but nothing that couldn't be reversed very easily. I actually figured it out... to go back to stock would be about 300$ (200$ for new SC door panels, $85 to have North hollywood remove said gauge faces and re-calibrate back to 85 mph speedo, and 15$ for misc items like crus sleeve for shift knob.) probably add in a good 4 hours of work, and it would be completely stock. I already switched from the 930S steering wheel back to the stock wheel, altho I did it in such a hurry that I need to re-align it so it's straight with the wheels.
The key here is the parting quote from the shop is "Well to a Porsche Purist, the car is worthless." I believe that he said the car was "crap" as well. The car is not a 100point show car. it's not priced as a 100pt show car. I've HAD trailer queens, and I've never held this out to be one. I get frustrated though when other make absolutist judgements based on that standard. If someone wants a trailer queen thats fine, but please do a bit of diligence, look at the pictures, and understand what you are buying before you make people jump through hoops.
Again, I've tried to use a few people who have seen the car to double check me to make sure i was being fair an honest. Having bought cars remotely before, I know what it's like to get suprises.
I think the only attitude adjustment is for the shop (you'll notice I don't mentiont he shop's name out of fairness, just like I never mentioned any specifics about the potential buyers). I don't really know what his deal was, and am glad that I've never used him for service. I have been actually fairly open in my negotations price wise, and have really been open to offers. I even have since gone back and price checked several other sources, including a PCA judge, and I still feel that I am in the range (with a little bit of negotiating room).
Again, wish everyone luck. To be honest, this expereince has gotten me to the point of never wanting to deal w/ the car hoppy again. It seems to me that we are going the way of sports cards and comic books. If it's not a gem mint 10, graded by some rating agency, it's worthless. Just expressing frustation.