[aigel]

Served TBC next to a $10 bottle of Costco wine at Thanksgiving with guests from out of state that did not know Charles Shaw. The TBC went empty before the Costco wine did. Now, neither I nor my guests are big wine drinkers, but you would have to have a well developed palate to taste anything wrong with the TBC. TBC is all that's served at my house - most the wine used here is put into sauces and gravies ...

Not sure I buy the "chemical plant" and "bad guy" story. That's how the small wineries are portraying it. IMHO the TBC is cheap because it is mass produced and the juice is bought at rock bottom prices. TBC is a result of the glut of grapes in CA. I travel in the central valley quite a bit and I can not comprehend the hundreds of square miles of grapes there must be.

Cheers (hoisting a glass of TBC)

George