[aigel]

$8 is my vote -- the credit card makes it easier not to round up.

Have you eaten in countries where tips are not customary? I have and let me tell you, I'd much rather pay the waiting staff directly. It does wonders to their attitude and gives me direct control of their income.

Bar tenders? I can't gather why I should pay more tip than a buck on a $5 drink? I guess if you drink a lot of hard liquor, you may end up with more booze getting the bar keeper on your side early in the evening, but tipping over 20% to be served a couple of long necks?

George