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^ Is there a reason you're padding your post count with inanities, "dedyplay"?

I'm waiting for the F/S postings.
Alan

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Originally Posted by JakobM (Post 12425493)

I have a used ruf intercooler I am willing to trade, it came from a 77 930 race car build by Hans Mandt ... the inlet pipe has been extended and welded to fit a 2' hose connection for turbo. It is in used condition ... some scratches on fins, but working fine, it has been running sebring and daytona at around 500whp back in 90's and 00's. I will get some pictures next time I have it out.

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Overview of Hans’ early U.S. history

Hans started his U.S. career with Brumos Porsche in 1967, as the Chief Mechanic on Peter Gregg’s Porsche 906 in the USRRA series – the forerunner to U.S. endurance racing as we know it today. In 1968-69, Hans became the Crew Chief for Peter Gregg’s Trans-AM under-two-liter Porsche 911, and at the request of the Porsche factory, also crewed for their wining Porsche 907 at the 1968 24 Hours of Daytona, the marque’s first overall win in a 24 hour race.

With Hans at the helm, Peter won the 1969 under-two-liter Championship and the SCCA BS Championship. For 1970, Brumos, with Peter as the primary driver, raced a Porsche 911S in the FIA rounds at Sebring and Watkins Glen. Hans also crewed on David Piper’s distinctive green Porsche 917 at the 24 Hours of Daytona. He was the Crew Chief for Brumos Porsche/Audi effort with two Porsche 914/6s in SCCA CP Class races, and was also Peter Gregg’s Crew Chief for a Lola T165 that Brumos raced in selective Can-AM events.

Winning became the signature for Mandt. In 1971, Brumos entered the first year of IMSA with Peter Gregg and Hurley Haywood winning the GT Championship with Porsche’s 914/6 GT, and Hans Mandt picked up his first of three successive IMSA Mechanic of the Year awards.

By 1972, Hans was ready to move on and joined Mike Keyser’s Toad Hall Racing, campaigning a rare factory-supported Porsche 9llST 2.5 litre car. They had class wins at FIA-sanctioned events including the 24 hours of Le Mans, Targa Florio and the Watkins Glen 6-Hour. Toad Hall won the IMSA Team Championship that year; Toad Hall Driver Bob Beasley finished 2nd to Peter Gregg in the Driver’s Championship and Hans won his 2nd mechanic of the year award.

Toad Hall had a second Porsche 911S 2.5 litre car, which Hans had converted from a 1971 street 911S and this car ran in selected IMSA events when Toad Hall ran two cars. Hans and the Kremers go back to the 60s as Manfred and Erwin Kremer are from the same town in Germany as Hans – Cologne. So close was the relationship, the Kremers and Toad Hall partnered in using each other’s shops when each respective team was in the USA or Europe.
This relationship continued with Hans preparing a Kremer 911 in the early 70s for the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Toad Hall deciding to purchase a brand new 1973 Porsche Carrera RS 2.8. After finishing second at the 12 Hours of Sebring, wining the GT class at the Six Hours of Watkins Glen and taking another second in the IMSA Driving Championship, Hans won his third IMSA mechanic of the year award.

For 1974, a new factory Porsche RSR 3.0 was purchased for the IMSA season and Le Mans and the 1973 RS was converted by Hans to 1974 body and specs.

After the ’74 season Hans went out on his own, and opened a race shop in South Florida – HSM Racing – where he would build successful cars and motors for many of the top teams in the series, including RSR, 934, 935 teams such as Ecurie Escargot, George Dyer Racing, Van Every Racing, Diego Fiebles, and many more. In addition to this, Hans was a successful independent shop owner garnering an impressive list of customers across Florida and the country.

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 12426145)

Literally the Original IMSA mechanic of the year (the 1st year IMSA started it) history with Brumos Porsche for Peter Gregg, Michael Keyser's Toad Hall Racing Team, among his resume.
One of the more humorous stories is from when Hans. Had his shop in South, he was working on i Vanilla ice’s Porsche and the crapper got stuck in traffic on the way to pick up the car and had a helicopter pick him up from the traffic jam and take him to the shop.

Sorry for the hijack, but not many people are aware of this piece of Porsche and IMSA history.

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Thanks a ton for the information, I have been reading up on Hans Mandt since I purhcased the racecar back in 2014. It had a huge sticker in the rear saying "in memory of Hans Mandt". I got history back to 1980 and got to talk to the owner. He was a friend of Hans Mandt, owned the car since 1980 and he had Hans Mandt convert the 77 930 to a race car in 1995 when HM had HSM Racing. I still have the keys with his HSM logo on it. Maybe I should rather keep the IC

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Originally Posted by JakobM (Post 12426198)

That is a piece of history that belongs to the car. You can't sell that.
Alan

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Originally Posted by JakobM (Post 12425493)

I have a used ruf intercooler I am willing to trade, it came from a 77 930 race car build by Hans Mandt ... the inlet pipe has been extended and welded to fit a 2' hose connection for turbo. It is in used condition ... some scratches on fins, but working fine, it has been running sebring and daytona at around 500whp back in 90's and 00's. I will get some pictures next time I have it out.

I'm interested, but is it the narrow intercooler that also fits the air conditioning?

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Originally Posted by Black 930 (Post 12427209)

I'm interested, but is it the narrow intercooler that also fits the air conditioning?

Yes, same as the ones in this thread first page with the Ruf logo in the casting. But based on the input above and racing history I have desided to keep it.

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 12426855)

You should, that is a very special car. I used to be close friends with his son and after he passed, I liquidated the shop. Just to give you a idea how long I knew him, me in the just introduced 964 C4, Hans’ son in the background.

Back on topic, see if Ruf will rent it from you , and unless you absolutely need the $$$$, Don’t part with it.

Wauw, thank you for posting! that is some awesome nice pictures and good memories with the Mandt family :-)
I remember the post here on pelican.... those parts... alot of racing stuff, 934 parts etc. But sad circumstances.

Here is some picture of the car, incl. some notes from owners

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

Pictures when I recieved it
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

Notes and brochure from previous owner since 1980
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

My restoration project (still ongoing)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

After paint job
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

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Status of the car is as above pending I get time to finish it

The owner since 1980 was so kind to send me an overseas package with some of his original photos, news articles, personal notes, emails etc. and contact info to the next owner. Really nice of him.

Then I got in contact with the next owner who also raced it, he mentioned:
"The oil cooler in the front of your car was built Porsche Motorsports for a 935. The car was driven by Al Holbert at Brumos Porsche in Jacksonville. The great Peter Gregg also raced out of Brumos. That cooler was crazy expensive!" ..."Hans Mandt was the lead tech for Al Holbert and his engine builder. He’s the one who built the engine for the 930"

Not sure, but it may means, the oil cooler is from a racecar 935 AI Holbert previous raced and later on went on the 930 / my car.

He further mention:
"It raced at Daytona, Sebring, Roebling Road, West Palm Beach, Road Atlanta, Savannah, Mid-Ohio, VIR and Road America. I raced it in GTS and it holds track records in that category at Roebling Road and VIR"

Also another funny story is ... I purchased a rear wing that turned out to have sat on a 934 #80 which raced lemans and guess who was the mechanics ..... :-) I purchased the rear wing here on pelican just after I got the race car, AND at that time I had not googled the name "in memory of Hans mandt" on my rear end. Only after I got this message from the seller of the rear wing I googled and got to learn about Hans Mandt and how he was connected to my car.

PM pelican messeage
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

I supporse it is this 934 #80
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

The wing on the car in my garage
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=3

So the 930 has some Hans Mandt history to it :-)

Do you happen to have any memory of this car?

@to the rest - sorry about the hijack

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Originally Posted by Mocker (Post 12426015)

^ Is there a reason you're padding your post count with inanities, "dedyplay"?

AI. Likely trying to build history/rep before starting a scam

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Originally Posted by JakobM (Post 12427442)

Thank you for sharing, I removed that wing and sold that SC for Hans. Surprised he sold it being a gift from his father and being what it is.

Random part that I saved from the dumpster :D:D
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Sitting in one of my car trailers. One never knows what will show up in my storage or trailers.

Hi JacobM,
do you have some pictures of IC now? I have interest in this IC if it fits in a street-car.

@JakobM
I can understand you keeping the RUF intercooler, but it is really disappointing for me.

Does anyone in the US know of someone who still has one of these RUF ICs floating around somewhere?

I'm grateful for any information.

What is the last asking price for a Ruf intercooler anyone has seen?

I would imagine you could CNC the design into a one for a lot cheaper. Unless you have to have an original.

I only know of one sitting on a shelf and the owner has no interest in selling.

There was a guy in Greece that claimed to have one. At least 5-7 years ago. He posted here.

Dear all,
I know I'm crazy, but I would pay $5000 for a real RUF IC to finish my car. Because it's a 930 and not a 964. RUF ICs are available for purchase for the 964, where the air conditioning system from the 930 no longer fits.

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 12428047)

Thank you for sharing, I removed that wing and sold that SC for Hans. Surprised he sold it being a gift from his father and being what it is.

Wauw again :-) seems you have helped him a lot. Yes, when knowing the wing was a gift from his father, I am suprised too I could end up buying it. Now it will be attached to the race car his father help make and service for many years which I treasure.