Is there a Turbo Carerra Registry?

[unclebilly]

Does anyone know if There is an early turbo registry anywhere on the interwebs?

If not, perhaps I will establish one.

[infraredcalvin]

Do it!

#311

[Les Paul]

380 here.

[Miguel Antonett]

+1 do it!

[voitureltd]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

Does anyone know if There is an early turbo registry anywhere on the interwebs?

If not, perhaps I will establish one.

If you do I'll sign up the ones I know about .

[cellison]

there is a pretty active thread on the Porsche board on F Chat just on the 3.0 TCs. Some of the posters are Pelcians and some not. Maybe the moderator over there started one but i'll cross post this.

[unclebilly]

Originally Posted by cellison

there is a pretty active thread on the Porsche board on F Chat just on the 3.0 TCs. Some of the posters are Pelcians and some not. Maybe the moderator over there started one but i'll cross post this.

Awesome!

Does anybody know when the first Turbo Carerra arrived in North America?

[porche]

Here’s a couple of Pelican links to the original ’73 Paris Show car that was prettied up at Jim Newton’s place a few years back. It was around the North East for a while but I don’t know where it is now.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/624782-1973-930-prototype.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/521772-930-prototype-sale.html

The next link is for the 4th US 930 (9306800014). It is a production variant not a prototype. It’s the earliest I remember seeing listed anywhere.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/467439-another-930-prototype.html

[rlane930]

The first U.S. 930 (9306800011) was featured in a recent Excellence magazine article. Silver with red tartar interior that appeared on two covers of Road and Track. May have been a preproduction car, page 49 – Ferrari Chat:

930 Turbo Carrera - Page 49 - FerrariChat.com

In addition to 3 liter 930’s and 928’s, there’s a possibility that there are preproduction 3.3 930’s as well (small turbo badge, different tach, etc.):

1979 Porsche 930 (...and 78's too!) - Page 17 - FerrariChat.com

Preproduction 928’s on Rennlist:

#1:

Early Porsche 928 restoration - "Number One", Preproduction Press Car (#1RC) - Rennlist Discussion Forums

#6

'77 ('78) Porsche 928, "Number Six", Preproduction Press Car (Updated 10-21-12) - Rennlist Discussion Forums

[rlane930]

The very first 911 turbo (without turbo fender flares), personal car of Louise Piech, sister of Ferry Porsche, is in the basement of the Porsche Museum (minute 3.00 in video)

Porsche Museum Secrets: Part 1 - YouTube

This may be same car mentioned in Michael Cotton’s Porsche 911 Turbo book (highlights that the 930 flares were added as a racing necessity with a sacrifice of aerodynamics).

“One score on which the Turbo could be criticized was its wheel arches, which increased the total overall width of the car by 4.88 in (to 69.9 in) compared with the Carrera 3. They did appear to be unnecessarily wide for the wheel and type equipment supplied (tyres were Pirelli CN36 with 185 section at the front and 215 section at the rear) and indeed they were, but the flares were needed for homologation purposes so that much wider racing wheels could be fitted later on. Spacers were used to bring the wheels out to fill the arches, but Dr. Fuhrmann had the last word by having the Turbo’s engine and running gear fitted into a narrower, standard Carrera bodyshell for his personal use…and this car was a full 10 km/h (6 mph) faster in a straight line!”

[Highway-Star]

please where can one join?

[Jbp]

Sign me in.

-77 930 #19.

Jocke.

[bermit_the_frog]

Hi guys,

I'm a long time lurker and I took over the Carrera 3 register and we are going to expand it into a Turbo 3.o worldwide register.

Porsche 911 Carrera 3.0

I will create a web page for the turbo3 as well, but bear with me.

As for the C3, I have done a lot of work to supply the original road tests and articles to the register starter, Jack Wilson back in 2007 and Colin Fitz, who took over from Jack.

In period, the carrera 3 (never officially imported into the US) was a mighty weapon and a serious contender for the Turbo 3.o (US nomenclature: TurboCarrera).

Here is a an excerpt of the original German road test for the Carrera 3, which I translated into english... it mentions the turbo into the final paragraph....

THE LITTLE DIFFERENCE

It is not only the 20.000 deutschmarks difference in purchase price that differentiate the Turbo from the Carrera. I believe that the purchasers are people with completely different mentalities.

Carrera types are more active drivers who like their car really responding to the input of the accelerator when it is negotiating the bends. That pleasure is heightened if your sportscar is equipped (as was our test car) with the adhesion inducing 50-series tyres. The turbo provides, equipped with similar tyres, a lot less pleasure insofar as going rounds bends is concerned. Its power delivery isn’t gradually: it comes from 4100 rpm down like a sledgehammer. And that requires, above all when accelerating out of bends, considerable concentration; as this is the point where the back often overtakes you. You can help this if you convert yourself to a left-foot brake pedallist. Stay on the gas so that the boost pressure doesn’t diminish and brake with your clutch foot. But such artistry is not obvious in Porsche pilots who spend 65.000 deutschmarks for a leather clad vehicle.
Y.P.
Its domains are motorways, on which you can fully play the trump card of the Turbo’s acceleration. Obviously, it is addictive in city driving when you take traffic- light acceleration for a take-offs, but unfortunately the clutch will let you know that it is markedly decreasing and the outside world experiences, when you subsequently need to brake, nothing but reluctance. On motorways however, the turbo works as a sovereign ruler, overtaking manoeuvres often not even requiring touching the gearlever as its third gear will reach from 100 km/h to 200 km/h.

The passing of the 200km/h boundary is totally effortless and cruising speeds between 200 and 240 km/h are without any problem. Impressive hereby is the general quietness of the car: the engine is less loud than the carrera’s, the directional stability is more stable thanks to it serial equipped rear wing. Where, in fast 200km/h bends, the Carrera tends to go walking unless you remain firmly on the gas, the Turbo is glued to the bend , even if you are forced to let go off the gas.

It doesn’t posses the bad habits of the BMW Turbo which retorted to fishtailing and which could only be stabilised by responding with full acceleration.

In short: A turbo is more a sports car for level-headed people whilst the Carrera attracts more dynamic characters. It would be ideal however, when your garaged housed both a turbo and a Carrera : one for the motorways and one for the A-roads.



Here are the figures for the test for both cars- test in km/h, obviously.



with the C3 and turbo 3.o register, I need area respresentatives. I will take responsibility to translate key pages from English into German/French/Dutch/Spanish and pull in some help for Italian, thus hopefully providing a "true" world register.

Ah, and who the heck am I? I am Belgian Bert, a 37 year old psychotherapist/psychoanalyst, living in Robin Hood country, Nottinghamshire, England. I am a serial Porsche driver since age 21 (but that was a brown 924, admittedly), have a 911 since age 25. Age 30, I bought the love of my life, a carrera 3 targa, which incidentally featured in "Classic Porsche" issue 7, as well as in the December 2012 edition of 911 & Porsche World.


During that marathon Carrera 3 resto, I kept my faith with a 964 Jubileum


then had a turbo 3.3


Sold that, got a 911 SC


and whilst tearing down the mountain with GeorgK (remember him?) a german stopped me and bought my car off me. (Name your price scenario. Well, after a deposit paid I took it home, polished it, drove 600 miles back to Germany to deliver it on Valentines day. A sweet thing)

I run a 924 S as a winter thing - as long as I have ground clearance, I get everywhere




And when needed, hammer it during the 6 hours of mallory park endurance in it



So, in summary, watch out for the worldwide Turbo 3.o register for your turbo carrera lovers: I aim to make it a reference website for current and old articles, road tests, perhaps publicity pictures etc to get some "facts" right about these awesome beast.

My buddy John Glynn blogged about a soon-to-be- published awesome article on a rare Albert blue special order Turbo carrera at "ferdinand",

EASY Porsche Meet San Francisco

with photo's by the one and only boy wonder, Jamie Lipman (check him out- James Lipman +++ Photographer United Kingdom

Keep the faith,

Belgian Bert

[voitureltd]

Hmm, interesting

[unclebilly]

This is great news. I have both a 77 Euro Carerra and a 76 Turbo Carerra.

[356911930]

this sounds great...count me in! #99

Rahl

[TKO]

Any new status updates with a 3.0 Turbo Carrera registry? Who's starting one? Shall I give it a go if nobody else does?

Tom

[unclebilly]

Has a registry been started or should we pool our efforts?

[lee88]

Somebody registered type930.com and seemingly intended to create a registry but never did.
TYPE 930.com

Anyway, I'm game for whoever creates one with my '77 930 (ROW).

[voitureltd]

lee88, Me too. TKO & unclebilly, Go for it. A dedicated Turbo Carrera registry would be much better than being part of a Ferrari site or for that matter a part of another Porsche model registry or site as well.