group buy

[blueaudis4]

I am doing a group buy for the HID kit. The kit is phillips which is made in Germany. It comes with a full year warranty and all of the hardware, light, ballast, mounts, instructions, wires, etc. The kit is a half kit so you dont need to find a buddy to buy with you. You have the choice between a 5,000K light ouput which is very white or a 7,500K light output which is more of a bluish/purple hue. If anyone is interested let me know.

[Highlander179]

From who? What mounts? Are full kits available? How much?

[UberXY]

BT, any rough idea on the price? (The HID kit on my 996 is $1200...)

[GotRoad?]

I would like to find out more. Price, specs, hardware, dimensions, mounting options, etcetera.

[blueaudis4]

The price would be about $230.00 for the half kit and $410.00 for the full kit. If you order a full kit you can get two different sized bulbs if you want and any type of bulb which is measured in (K). So if you want a H7 and a H1 you can do that and you could also have one bulb be a 5,200K and the other one a 7,500K bulb at no extra cost. The light varies and you can choose between 5,200k (white) 6,000k (blue) 7,000k (violet) 7,500k (deep Blue). The pricing includes shipping and insurrance. I was doing the phillips ballasts but do to the US being so tight it is going to be harder for me to get them and they are also running quite a bit more. The ballasts I am getting now are Hella, which is also from Germany. This is a true plug and play kit and also comes with a full 18month warranty. Lets get a nice group together for the buy and I migh be able to get the pricing lower.

[Don Ro]

1 yr. warranty through you or whom?
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"The ballasts I am getting now are Hella, which is also from Germany."
You a dealer or some such? To whom would the checks be written?
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Got a link where we can look over these items?
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Thanks.

[JonyRR]

I'm also interested if all the details pan out. I still don't have enough light at night for my liking. Let's see all the gory details...

[blueaudis4]

What is the difference between genuine XENON HID lights and Xenon gas-filled bulbs?

High Intensity Discharge (HID) is a type of lighting technology that replaces the filament of the light bulb with Xenon gas. The gas is ignited to produce an arc of light, when high voltage is applied. The amount of light output is three times that of a standard halogen bulb. The lamps also glow at a higher light temperature (closer to natural sunlight) that gives it its distinct color and appearance.

Other companies produce halogen bulbs that are gas-filled. They still have a filament as they are halogen technology, but the gas gives the bulb a bluer color when lit. Xenon-filled halogen bulbs produce little or no more light output then standard halogen bulbs of the same wattage.


"It should be noted that halogen technology is not comparable to the Xenon discharge technology, fitted as original equipment to more and more of the world's finest cars. " - Philips


DO NOT BE FOOLED BY COMPANIES THAT OFFER HID LOOK BULBS! They are not a true XENON HID light system.



How long will these bulbs last?

HID XENON lamps are designed to last for the life of your vehicle. They will run for over 3,500 hours. Our lamp kits and bulbs are made of the finest materials available.



Could I not just purchase a stronger watt halogen bulb to get a brighter light?

XENON HID lamps are 35 watts while traditional halogen bulbs are 55 watts. Even though XENON HID lamps draw less current, they produce 3 times the light output as the higher wattage halogen bulbs. Increasing the wattage will make the bulb a little brighter but still much dimmer that the XENON HID lamps. Also, AMPS = (BULB WATTS X 2) / BATTERY VOLTAGE OUTPUT (12). So as you increase the wattage on your bulb you increase the current draw on your entire electrical system. This is critical in motorcycle applications.



Why can I not just replace the halogen bulb in my vehicle with XENON HID lamps with out having to purchase the entire kit?

Motorcycles and automobiles currently use a 12 Volt electrical system for their headlamps. XENON HID lighting systems require over 20,000 volts to ignite the bulbs. Once lit, they only require 12 volts to keep running. Our kits include a power pack that is necessary for the lamps to turn on. The input of the power pack is 12 volts. It is an integral part of the system. You also require additional components to install the XENON HID lamp into the socket of the halogen bulb (supplied with the kit).



What does the XENON HID light system kit include?

Every one of our kits is made from OEM grade materials that has been DOT approved. We will supply you with all of the necessary components and hardware to install this system into your vehicle. Each kit includes: 2 direct plug-in XENON HID lamp, 2 base adapter, 2 ballasts, 2 igniters, all necessary wiring, complete and easy to follow installation instructions and wiring diagram.



Could I Install the kit myself?

For anyone who is mechanically inclined, this installation is considered "do-it-yourself". While a typical installation takes approximately an hour, it can vary depending on application (conversion or auxiliary). Our kits are ready to install right-out-of-the-box and come complete with everything that you will need. We also provide you a full set of easy-to-read, step-by-step instructions to guide you.



Could I re-install the original halogen bulbs after the XENON HID kit has been installed?

With the growing popularity of leasing vehicles, a big concern is whether or not you can bring the vehicle back to its original factory condition. Our kits install with little or no modifications to your vehicle. If need be, the entire kit can be removed and the original halogen bulbs replaced. This kit can be re-installed into another vehicle that uses the same bulb size.

[Don Ro]

'Not sure if you noticed my post, so I'll poke it in here again.
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1 yr. warranty through you or whom?
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"The ballasts I am getting now are Hella, which is also from Germany."
You a dealer or some such? To whom would the checks be written?
.
Got a link where we can look over these items?
.
Thanks.


__________________
Don
'99 Black ABS

[Joe]

Whoever you buy from I highly recommend the low color temp bulbs 4k-5k I've been using HID's for close to 5 years and leave both Hi/lo beams on in daylight the Phillips bulbs and ballast are one of the better kits but at a cost of about $100 over your Phillips ballast and Asian bulb kit. I have one of each and their both working fine.

[sakurama]

I would be in for both but I'd like some more information about who we'd be buying from.

Gregor

[Highlander179]

Good point Joe,

Are these Asian made bulbs or the real deal (Philips)?

Do we have the option of spending more for the Philips ballast as I'm sure most of us would prefer it to the Hella?

Who is the warantee from? You or Philips/Hella?

Where can we see these kits?

[Joe]

See if this guy will give a group discount he has the real Phillips kits.

http://www.xenonfactory.com/products/hid/philips.htm

[Rapid Dog]

O.K., hey I work for a lighting company and I'm totally lame...that said...

I replaced my stock bulbs with some fancy shmancy bulbs from a dealer that cost me about $30 each...what kind are they? Something that's 110 what lumens at a 55W draw...that's all I know.
It didn't change muchof anything light-wise...
So, tes, I'm cornfused, what is the diff, performance and otherwise (I know it cost more for a HID/ballast set-up)
between these replacement bulbs and the HID.

Please clarify for us old turds...

[blueaudis4]

the hids bulbs are about 35w and produce 3,600 lumens there is no filament in an hid bulb, the gas that is inside is xenon with some type of salt mixture that when ignited arcs between the tops and bottom. because of this arc and lumens, the light output is closely matched to that of day light 5,000k

[Don Ro]

Let's see here - I'll try to break the code this way:
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nicht sicher, wenn Sie meinen Pfosten beachteten, so stoße ich es innen hier wieder.
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1 Jahr. Garantie durch Sie oder wem?
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"die Drosseln, die ich jetzt erhalte, sind Hella, welches auch aus Deutschland kommt."
Sie ein Händler oder irgendwelche so? Zu wem würden die Überprüfungen geschrieben?
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Erhielt eine Verbindung, in der wir über diesen Einzelteilen schauen können?
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Danke.
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[Rapid Dog]

Okeh okeh den...
THe hotsy totsy filiments are wot 3600 lumens?
The HID bulbs (no-filly) are 5000 lumens.
break it down fo' bru-tha...

[blueaudis4]

the color 5,000K or 7,500K is the temperature at which it burns at color wise 5,000K is the same as day light and 7,500K is more like sunset. the higher in (K) you go the lower the lightoutput. so the 5,000 give you the most light output and the 7,500 give you the least at around 2,400 lumens

[Rapid Dog]

Krichy! Can't nothin' be simple?...

So the replacement filliment bulbage you can by at most dealers that claims a brighter headlight using 55w or 85w or some such, is only slightly brighter
but,

wait...his must be what you mean...

Left numbers (LM=Lumens) is brightness, Bottom (K=Kelvin) is the color Temperature
Notice the higher the Kelvin(K) the Brigtness(LM=Lumens) drops




so the 4200 white light kit looks like it puts out more light.
I guess I gotta find what the filly bulbs lumens is...

Sweet Jeezuz, show me the light....

[Rapid Dog]

this watt I got...



PIAA - PIAA H-1 "XTRA" Technology Bulb
Weight: 1.0 lbs
List Price: $31.95

PIAA H-1 "XTRA" Technology Bulb

PIAA's H-1 XTRA bulb is rated at 55 watts yet capable of projecting the apparent light of an ordinary 100 watt Halogen bulb.

Single filament bulb.

Increases apparent light output from stock 55 watt lamp without increasing electrical requirements or generating excessive heat.

If you have seen the latest cars with the ultra expensive High Intensity Discharge (H.I.D) lamps, the PIAA replacement halogen bulbs approach similar brightness of these lamps at a fraction of the cost.




PIAA H7 Xtreme White Plus Bulb

The very popular Xtreme White Plus technology is now available in H7 style bulbs. Rated at 4000K and providing 110watts worth of light from only 55watts these bulbs will provide a brilliant Xtreme cool white light that will light up road hazards and street signs long before a normal halogen bulb.


So they are tellin' me that this PIAA H7 Xtreme White Plus Bulb is almost equal to one of the HID kits...

I'm in the dark...