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Pazuzu 09-13-2018 08:37 AM

Hurricane Ike was 110mph Cat 2 when it actually hit land, and it scraped sections of the barrier islands down to top soil. Galveston has a 17 foot tall seawall, and the storm surge went right over it, covering the entire island in a few feet of water instantly.

I would never discount any Cat 2 storm. 110mph right through a population center probably did more actual physical damage than Harvey did, wind vs rain. Ike tossed boats and cars around, tore building apart, decimated the power grid. I stood outside and watched Harvey rain down, but you couldn't stand outside for Ike, it was too strong.

Jims5543 09-13-2018 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 10180060)
Totally agree. That was a big lesson learned with Hurricane Sandy. People completely underestimated it. People refused to evac.

.

Because they rode out Irene the year prior and THAT was supposed to be a "catastrophic and deadly" storm.

The media causes complacency with their over exaggeration of the storms, then you get people saying, "I rode out Irene, Sandy is more of the same I am staying put, Irene was nothing."

And Irene was nothing.

Sandy was not.

Baz 09-13-2018 06:18 PM

So ---

The media in their relentless zeal - warning and chastising the public for staying through the storm vs. evacuating........

Which is more credible:

1) "Leave or you will suffer bodily harm and/or death!"
or
2) "Leave or you will be very uncomfortable due to loss of power."

Because it seems like #2 is the more likely scenario - not #1.

And why am I the one to come to this conclusion - with all the busy-bodies in the communications field?

Tervuren 09-13-2018 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10180930)
So ---

The media in their relentless zeal - warning and chastising the public for staying through the storm vs. evacuating........

Which is more credible:

1) "Leave or you will suffer bodily harm and/or death!"
or
2) "Leave or you will be very uncomfortable due to loss of power."

Because it seems like #2 is the more likely scenario - not #1.

And why am I the one to come to this conclusion - with all the busy-bodies in the communications field?

You need to consider the potential guilt if they played something at the lowest possibility and reality was the highest.

It is far better to ere on the side of caution when it comes to Hurricanes.

The day it lands is too late for those there to leave all together.

LakeCleElum 09-13-2018 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10180930)
So ---

The media in their relentless zeal - - with all the busy-bodies in the communications field?

Idiots..........Talking for 48 hours non-stop about something that hasn't happened yet.........I real feel for those in the path of the storm, but sick of the media already...

Baz 09-13-2018 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10180933)
You need to consider the potential guilt if they played something at the lowest possibility and reality was the highest.

It is far better to ere on the side of caution when it comes to Hurricanes.

The day it lands is too late for those there to leave all together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum (Post 10180939)
Idiots..........Talking for 48 hours non-stop about something that hasn't happened yet.........I real feel for those in the path of the storm, but sick of the media already...

The sky is falling....the sky is falling......

=========

I guess I would rather see emphasis on how to get through if you decide to hunker down - rather than the broken record nothing burger we hear 24/7.

Zero creativity.

Shocking.....

ckelly78z 09-13-2018 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10180930)
So ---

The media in their relentless zeal - warning and chastising the public for staying through the storm vs. evacuating........

Which is more credible:

1) "Leave or you will suffer bodily harm and/or death!"
or
2) "Leave or you will be very uncomfortable due to loss of power."

Because it seems like #2 is the more likely scenario - not #1.

And why am I the one to come to this conclusion - with all the busy-bodies in the communications field?

Drama is good for ratings, and most people need something scary to rally around.

TRE Cup 09-13-2018 06:47 PM

If it bleeds it leads....

Jims5543 09-13-2018 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10180933)
You need to consider the potential guilt if they played something at the lowest possibility and reality was the highest.

It is far better to ere on the side of caution when it comes to Hurricanes.

The day it lands is too late for those there to leave all together.

See my post above yours.

The Sandy debacle was due to over hyping Irene the year prior. People that evacuated came back to perfectly fine homes. Why leave for the next one?


Because they hyped a weak storm up.

There will be damage from this storm, but lets be real, it is a Cat 2 storm, and that should be made very clear. If this was a true Cat 4 coming ashore the damage would have been much much worse.

If they just reported facts, instead of hyping these storms up I would find them to be responsible.

What they are doing now? Irresponsible and dangerous.

A930Rocket 09-14-2018 04:06 AM

Down to a cat 1 now. Lots of rain.

Just waiting to see what happens now as it nears Charleston.

Everyone ok in N.C.?

Jims5543 09-14-2018 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 10181296)
Down to a cat 1 now. Lots of rain.

Just waiting to see what happens now as it nears Charleston.

Everyone ok in N.C.?

Was just textign a friend up in the Northern OBX area near Kittyhawk, he said it a pretty normal day up there and things might open back up by noon today.

Bullet, for them, ducked.

fastfredracing 09-14-2018 05:07 AM

Buddy in Avon , OBX texted me at midnight. He was holding up good. Still not flooded, but said the water was close . He said that Highway 12 was under. but overall, not that bad so far .
If I have to watch that lady on TWC talk about that dumb tree one more time, I'm driving there and cutting it up myself

Tervuren 09-14-2018 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 10181296)
Down to a cat 1 now. Lots of rain.

Just waiting to see what happens now as it nears Charleston.

Everyone ok in N.C.?

Just windy here in Charlotte this morning, won't reach here till later.

slow&rusty 09-14-2018 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 10181326)
If I have to watch that lady on TWC talk about that dumb tree one more time, I'm driving there and cutting it up myself


Haha!

onewhippedpuppy 09-14-2018 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 10181326)
Buddy in Avon , OBX texted me at midnight. He was holding up good. Still not flooded, but said the water was close . He said that Highway 12 was under. but overall, not that bad so far .
If I have to watch that lady on TWC talk about that dumb tree one more time, I'm driving there and cutting it up myself

Lol, they found the one big tree that fell and camped out next to it.

Still sounds like there will be flooding damage, but in the grand scheme of things certainly not as bad as things could have been.

tomgalloway1 09-14-2018 05:40 AM

car storage
 
There was a you tube on this site a while back where a guy kept jacking his car up as the flood rose . It was crazy - the jack under water - stacking garden blocks under the car.
After the storm there was a shot of the car about three feet in the air.

What are you guys doing - my car floats up in six inches of water - at least my previous e30 did - very scarrey - water pouring in the door - very dark - the chinese carry out made me do it.
I was lucky. best of luck to you guys too

tg

flatbutt 09-14-2018 05:43 AM

Just talked to my good friend in Raleigh. He says there is no problem there.

sand_man 09-14-2018 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10181366)
Just talked to my good friend in Raleigh. He says there is no problem there.

I'm in North Raleigh, all good here, so far. We have a beach place on Topsail Island, not sure how it held up. Honestly, with all the news coverage, we just wanted the damn thing to land already!!!

drcoastline 09-14-2018 06:02 AM

Just received a text from friends riding out the storm on their boat on Radio Island, between Beaufort and Morehead city, NC. Windy but so far so good. Tide coming up now.

berettafan 09-14-2018 06:06 AM

bought a used boat years ago from radio island marina. that area is pretty cool and a fishing paradise.

tdw28210 09-14-2018 06:12 AM

live beach screen grab from Tybee Island, GA this Friday AM. THis is spitting distance from HHI. Pretty much no impact.

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seafeye 09-14-2018 06:25 AM

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Prediction is gust to 75 knots. That’s enough to cause significant damage. Especially if the ground is soggy from non stop rain.

Khal 09-14-2018 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomgalloway1 (Post 10181360)
There was a you tube on this site a while back where a guy kept jacking his car up as the flood rose . It was crazy - the jack under water - stacking garden blocks under the car.
After the storm there was a shot of the car about three feet in the air.

What are you guys doing - my car floats up in six inches of water - at least my previous e30 did - very scarrey - water pouring in the door - very dark - the chinese carry out made me do it.
I was lucky. best of luck to you guys too

tg

Most of them are doing nothing trying to be MAGAhypocrites. Baz for example. Calls himself a capitalist, lives on the coast has No home owners insurance (he'll let others say in Iowa pay for his coastal home insurance) and says if his house gets wiped out by a hurricane he'll be first in line for FEMA checks and then call everyone else a socialist. That's what some of them are doing.

It probably time to post that Jon Stossel clips about all of the socialist that live on the east cost that repeatedly use federal funds to bail out their beach side homes over and over and over again. Go look thur Baz's posts he's a parasite.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SJKv2iyBCIc" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Eric 951 09-14-2018 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khal (Post 10181566)
Most of them are doing nothing trying to be MAGAhypocrites. Baz for example. Calls himself a capitalist, lives on the coast has No home owners insurance (he'll let others say in Iowa pay for his coastal home insurance) and says if his house gets wiped out by a hurricane he'll be first in line for FEMA checks and then call everyone else a socialist. That's what some of them are doing.

It probably time to post that Jon Stossel clips about all of the socialist that live on the east cost that repeatedly use federal funds to bail out their beach side homes over and over and over again. Go look thur Baz's posts he's a parasite.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SJKv2iyBCIc" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Keep PARF in PARF:rolleyes:

Tervuren 09-14-2018 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric 951 (Post 10181599)
Keep PARF in PARF:rolleyes:

A little advice, don't quote a post that doesn't belong in OT.

Maybe just the name at most.

Baz 09-14-2018 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khal (Post 10181566)
-snip- Baz for example. Calls himself a capitalist, lives on the coast has No home owners insurance (he'll let others say in Iowa pay for his coastal home insurance) and says if his house gets wiped out by a hurricane he'll be first in line for FEMA checks and then call everyone else a socialist. -snip-

You say that like it's a bad thing! :p

Baz 09-14-2018 09:55 AM

Just in the time I've lived in "this" house....I've paid into homeowner's and windstorm insurance over $80K.

So far I've received just over $3K back - from FEMA.

Doing the math.......they still have over $75K of my money.

Am I beeching about it?

No.

Is someone else?

Yes.

:rolleyes:

Halm 09-14-2018 09:55 AM

I just checked the Brunswick County electric co-op's outage map. Of their 96k connections, 61k are out of service. Bad storm, really bad.

Baz 09-14-2018 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halm (Post 10181706)
I just checked the Brunswick County electric co-op's outage map. Of their 96k connections, 61k are out of service. Bad storm, really bad.

If there's anything I have learned through all the hurricanes I have gone through - it's to have a working generator and plenty of gas on hand. Plan for at least one full week (or more) for power to be off.

Also, make sure you have at least one window AC unit....two would be even better. Ones that have plugs for 110v. You can run them off the generator along with the refrigerator, washing machine, fan(s), TV/DVD player, microwave, and lamps.

Most dryers use 220v - and my generator can provide that - I just don't care about going that far with it.

Keep plenty of soup, water, juice, and other provisions on hand - and don't forget what's needed for the 4-legged children! ;)

dafischer 09-14-2018 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10181705)
Just in the time I've lived in "this" house....I've paid into homeowner's and windstorm insurance over $80K.

So far I've received just over $3K back - from FEMA.

Doing the math.......they still have over $75K of my money.

Am I beeching about it?

No.

Is someone else?

Yes.

:rolleyes:

How do your words taste, Khal?

Brown747 09-14-2018 12:27 PM

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Jims5543 09-14-2018 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10181734)
If there's anything I have learned through all the hurricanes I have gone through - it's to have a working generator and plenty of gas on hand. Plan for at least one full week (or more) for power to be off.

Also, make sure you have at least one window AC unit....two would be even better. Ones that have plugs for 110v. You can run them off the generator along with the refrigerator, washing machine, fan(s), TV/DVD player, microwave, and lamps.

Most dryers use 220v - and my generator can provide that - I just don't care about going that far with it.

Keep plenty of soup, water, juice, and other provisions on hand - and don't forget what's needed for the 4-legged children! ;)

Propane whole house standby generator. Best money I have ever spent. Runs almost entire house (except electric stove/range) including the AC.

It is like the power is still on.

I do a Dr. Evil laugh every time the power goes out and that baby kicks on.

Enough Propane to last me 1 week at 24 hours running. By 4-5 days after storm typically the propane company will make a delivery.

LakeCleElum 09-14-2018 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 10181852)
Propane whole house standby generator. Best money I have ever spent. Runs almost entire house (except electric stove/range) including the AC.

It is like the power is still on.

I do a Dr. Evil laugh every time the power goes out and that baby kicks on.

Enough Propane to last me 1 week at 24 hours running. By 4-5 days after storm typically the propane company will make a delivery.

Jim - How big a propane tank? 100 gal? Best of luck sir....

Jims5543 09-14-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum (Post 10181868)
Jim - How big a propane tank? 100 gal? Best of luck sir....

250 Gallon Propane tank and I am no where near a storm at the moment, sun is out and the skies are blue in South Florida.

I want to put in a second 250 tank for insurance. I might one day.

fastfredracing 09-14-2018 12:57 PM

Just got a text saying an electric truck passed over the Bonner bridge back into the Southern Part of the Outer Banks. My buddies electric is on, and he said people are moving about, but the water from the sound is still flooding a lot of the island. It will take a day or so for it to flow back out
They are saying 12 south should be open to the Public at 7 am on Monday morning. Ill be parked there at 5 am ready to plow in .
Messing with Baz outside of parf could land you a horsehead in your bed.

Baz 09-14-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 10181852)
Propane whole house standby generator. Best money I have ever spent. Runs almost entire house (except electric stove/range) including the AC.

It is like the power is still on.

I do a Dr. Evil laugh every time the power goes out and that baby kicks on.

Enough Propane to last me 1 week at 24 hours running. By 4-5 days after storm typically the propane company will make a delivery.

Sweet setup, Jim....I like it!

10kW?

That's really the way to go. :p

Baz 09-14-2018 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 10181873)
Just got a text saying an electric truck passed over the Bonner bridge back into the Southern Part of the Outer Banks. My buddies electric is on, and he said people are moving about, but the water from the sound is still flooding a lot of the island. It will take a day or so for it to flow back out
They are saying 12 south should be open to the Public at 7 am on Monday morning. Ill be parked there at 5 am ready to plow in .
Messing with Baz outside of parf could land you a horsehead in your bed.

Thanks for the update at your buddy's place, Fred. That's great news.

And for having my back.

You're a good man! SmileWavy

Jims5543 09-14-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10181875)
Sweet setup, Jim....I like it!

10kW?

That's really the way to go. :p

17KW I went all in. As I said best money ever spent.

In 2004 I was using a little gas generator with a window unit in 1 bedroom and it sucked.


In 2006 I put in the 17KW setup with 250 gallon propane tank.

I never go another chance to use it.

Then last year Irma knocked us out for a week, it was a godsend.

If you live somewhere like we do, it is a no brainer one less thing to worry about when a storm is coming.


I also just replaced half my homes windows with impact windows, I now have half the world to do when getting ready.

Les Paul 09-14-2018 01:15 PM

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BeyGon 09-14-2018 01:34 PM

why would you stay there with your kid, just doesn't seem smart at all



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