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Captain Ahab Jr 06-09-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10486016)
What I did love about the podium was the joy from the Mercedes person who accepted the constructors trophy. You could tell she appreciated the moment.

Good for her :cool:, wish there were more ladies working in F1

Didn't see the race or what caused Vettel's penalty but thought it sucked the fastest driver/car didn't win today

I've been a steward (poacher turned gamekeeper and then back to poacher :D) at few world championship F1 inshore powerboat events, at that level it's not any an easy game at all as someone always hates you ;)

Scott Douglas 06-09-2019 02:32 PM

Back in the 'old days', Ham would have finished second and thanked Seb for leaving him enough room to brake safely and continue on.

yellowperil 06-09-2019 03:15 PM

Autosport news says Ferrari intends to appeal penalty. This is a chance for them
to do the right thing.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1560122065.jpg

cairns 06-09-2019 03:59 PM

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Autosport news says Ferrari intends to appeal penalty. This is a chance for them
to do the right thing.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1560122065.jpg
I think they have about as much chance as McLaren did back in 2008 when the penalty and win went against Hamilton. That was a BS penalty too.

chapo 06-09-2019 04:36 PM

Lame!totally lame. F1 is doing its damnedest to make sure nothing happens on track. Glad I watched indycar the night before, not the greatest race at Texas but way more exiting than this

450knotOffice 06-09-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 10486105)
Back in the 'old days', Ham would have finished second and thanked Seb for leaving him enough room to brake safely and continue on.

Yep. That sentence sums it up perfectly.

chapo 06-09-2019 08:17 PM

Love Sebs quote “ this is not the sport I fell in love with”. 100 percent agree.

svandamme 06-09-2019 09:01 PM

Vettel screwed up, went off
He should be happy that he did not end up in the Armco with a DNF on the score board.

Instead he's moping and crying bout the 5 sec and 1 lost place.

Either way, he screwed up while in the lead.
He lost the lead, nobody else did that

chapo 06-09-2019 09:40 PM

Yes he lost the lead. Hamilton couldn’t pass him in the next x amount of laps.? Stupid penalty . More importantly is the amount of fans losing interest

svandamme 06-09-2019 09:53 PM

Sure Hamilton could pass, all it takes is one screw up from the guy in front of him.
Vettel chokes when he's up front, not the first time, won't be the last time.

To finish first, first you have to finish.
In this case he nearly didn't even finish.

chapo 06-09-2019 09:54 PM

F1 used to be about men driving their machines to the limit, and the great ones beyond the limit. Doesn’t happen anymore. Too much monitoring and worrying, too many decisions made by engineers and directors. There are no more heroic drives through the pack or in the rain. The drivers would like to see this changed. The drivers in days gone by were truly heroic in the efforts, not now .

svandamme 06-09-2019 10:10 PM

Oh I agree, and i really don't watch anymore, No V10's or V12's, sjit sound.
the drivers barely have any character in them.
Kimi can be funny, Crashhappens is thick as a plank ,Hambone well he's ok, but most of them are like human computers that plug into their car..
They rarely give an interesting interview..
And then you got a crybaby like Vettel that throws a tantrum each time something doesn't go his way.. boring really. And the cars look ugly as well...

450knotOffice 06-09-2019 10:26 PM

Ridiculous position to take considering that Ham DIDN’T pass him for the lead, Stijn. Seb saved it and stayed ahead. He stayed ahead and finished FIRST, but didn’t win. He didn’t win because the idiot stewards stole it from him. I don’t think they intentionally meant to. Worse, I think they were simply incompetent. The FIA and F1 should be ashamed.
IMSA/WEC is so much better. It’s RACING.

svandamme 06-09-2019 10:33 PM

he saved it at the expense of Ham who had to brake for a car returning to the track after going off

Either way, it was Vettel's mistake and he should be happy he did not crash and DNF alltogether.

450knotOffice 06-09-2019 11:01 PM

Apparently you’ve never heard of real RACING, Stijn. In any other series This would have been a pure racing incident, nothing more.

But, hey, it’s F1, so...

svandamme 06-09-2019 11:06 PM

Still does not change the fact that Vettel while doing real racing, screwed up...

450knotOffice 06-09-2019 11:35 PM

But he stayed ahead...

Wait. No. The STEWARDS took that away.

(As an aside, every race sees many screwups by all of the drivers. No driver drives a perfect race.)

yellowperil 06-10-2019 02:16 AM

Too bad Hamilton hadn't squeezed through, looked like he had the room, then all this fuss wouldn't have mattered.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1560161664.jpg

svandamme 06-10-2019 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 10486493)
Too bad Hamilton hadn't squeezed through, looked like he had the room, then all this fuss wouldn't have mattered.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1560161664.jpg

Vettel clearly gave extra steering input to close the gap


Put it on slow mo...

https://youtu.be/gqhX-ZzPhzo?t=3

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1560163042.jpg

astrochex 06-10-2019 04:01 AM

At first I thought the penalty was excessive, but then I saw additional information. Vettel was in the wrong, he looked in his mirrors, then went right towards Hamilton, https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reason-vettel-punished-canada/4461461/.

Sux that Vettel had to crack under pressure. I think Hamilton had more pace than Vettel and if he had gone by, it would have been game over for Ferrari.


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