Property survey question....

[KFC911]

I need to have two property lines moved over (easy imo), and about 3 new lines drawn (also easy imo), to create two small lots. I may also need a few other lines redrawn on a totally different area of the property....to be determined? Should I proceed with what I know I want done (yesterday), or wait to have a "complete" plan....all at once? Jim ?

[Crowbob]

All at once.

[KFC911]

But totally indpendent, different sections? Also another (easy) one...

How much more? I want/need them done asap....others might not happen at all.

[Jims5543]

You know the saying, fast, cheap and right, pick two.

Do you have a prior survey? If so that will be your best starting point. Contact that company as they have surveyed the land already.

If not, most surveyors will want to survey the entire boundary of the land owned from scratch, THEN can work on moving property lines. I am assuming you are changing the configuration of lines between parcels you own or you are dividing larger land into smaller parts.

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[BeyGon]

Sounds like it can be done on paper except someone will have to set and record the new corners physically. Plus record the new Parcel Map, that will cost you so you should do it all at once.

[icemann427]

If I was to advise someone on doing a lot split, the first thing I would tell them is to check with the municipality to see if they would allow it. Additionally, they may put you through certain approval steps prior to allowing for the split. You will need to see what the zoning is; to make sure any lot split conforms to the minimum lot size allowed in said zoning; you may need will serve letters from utility companies; and to make sure physical and legal access is available for the split lots (this last portion could be part of the municipality's approval process. If you are out in an unincorporated area, all three lots will require metes and bounds legal descriptions which, normally, a surveyor will have to write. Additionally, an egress and ingress easement may need to be described, as well. All of the above will have to be recorded in the county where you live. As said, previously, new corner markers need to be placed, too.

[SCadaddle]

Originally Posted by icemann427

If I was to advise someone on doing a lot split, the first thing I would tell them is to check with the municipality to see if they would allow it. Additionally, they may put you through certain approval steps prior to allowing for the split. You will need to see what the zoning is; to make sure any lot split conforms to the minimum lot size allowed in said zoning; you may need will serve letters from utility companies; and to make sure physical and legal access is available for the split lots (this last portion could be part of the municipality's approval process. If you are out in an unincorporated area, all three lots will require metes and bounds legal descriptions which, normally, a surveyor will have to write. Additionally, an egress and ingress easement may need to be described, as well. All of the above will have to be recorded in the county where you live. As said, previously, new corner markers need to be placed, too.

+1

Also, rural areas subject to septic tank systems might require a minimum lot size depending on the perc test of the soil in the area.

Sincerely,
A Professional Land Surveyor

[Jims5543]

All good points.

His wording indicated the lots were split already, he was changing the configuration.

I am assuming he has already been to whatever governing municipalities concerning this matter and is moving forward with his plan.

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[Crowbob]

Most municipalities and/or areas subject to zoning restrictions only allow splits to occur only every so many years, usually have requirements for minimum parcel sizes, easements, restrictions, access roads, etc, depending on how the proerty is zoned, i.e., commercial, agriculture, high density residential, low density redientual, waterfront etc.

If you are creating new lots (splitting) you may not be able to do it again for awhile, as in years. In addition, most surveyors don't do stuff for free just like everybody else. The township may even require a completely new survey for what in many cases is simply a partial reiteration of the old survey with the new parcels added. Doing it all at once means not doing it twice and not paying for it twice.

Simply redrawing property lines pretty much creates new parcels. The township assessor will, of course, be quite interested in assigining new tax ID's to the new parcels and raising property taxes. So what looks on paper to be a very simple process of redrawing some property lines is not so simple.

[KFC911]

Thanks all! I remembered we (dad) had a line moved over 5' (us being nice)...on this property about a dozen years ago..it was no biggie, minimal $....I'll dig in, dad is foggy.

[Zeke]

Beygone should have the best advice, but I think if you go to the county offices you can find any survey info from the past. If the surveyor is listed, they can use what they already have done to expedite.

Is that about right, Dean?

[KFC911]

Thanks guys...this isn't gonna be hard. I'm not actually creating new parcels....just shrinking them ...as small as feasible....could stop at .25 acre or a house footprint . Looking at a map from when I was a kid....there was a 50'x50' parcel

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by KC911

Thanks guys...this isn't gonna be hard. I'm not actually creating new parcels....just shrinking them ...as small as feasible....could stop at .25 acre or a house footprint . Looking at a map from when I was a kid....there was a 50'x50' parcel

Good points were made before getting too deep into this visit your local planning and zoning and see what you are allowed to do.

[KFC911]

Thans Jim, two line moves are a given, gotta happen, and I think pretty cut & dried easy. A third line moved also will reduce one existing parcel to a qtr acre lot, easy methinks. I'm gonna call the surveyor who moved a different line a few years back and go from there.