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sammyg2 03-24-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10402895)
I know it's apples and oranges, and the Williams team is in a death spiral, but Stroll qualified the Williams at 1:35.xxx last year; Will Power turned a lap in the 1:46's to claim pole for todays race, and the slowest lap ever turned by any F1 car is 1:42.7 by HRT in 2012.

Edit - but Indy car is WAY faster than Moto GP. Marquez has the pole record at 2:02.

So yer saying that if williams qualified on only three tires, they'd be even with indycar .... ;)

herr_oberst 03-24-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10402918)
So yer saying that if williams qualified on only three tires, they'd be even with indycar .... ;)

If I'm being honest, I don't know what I'm saying, ha ha! I started looking at lap times and I found those to be pretty interesting.

As ugly as they are, those F1 cars are really good at going really quick around a race track.

madcorgi 03-24-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeCleElum (Post 10402697)
The only spoiler to a great race day is having Paul Tracy as(s) a commentator.....I'll just never forget his abrasive personality and bonehead moves as a driver.........

I'm surprised to hear that. Sure Tracy was a nut behind the wheel, but he was a great driver, and has turned out to be a terrific commentator, IMO. Every time I listen to him, I learn new stuff.

I think Indycar is the best racing out there by far. Beautiful cars, interesting tracks, and amazing drivers. There's more passing in a drag race than the typical F1 race.

legion 03-24-2019 03:39 PM

Crazy end.

How old is the team owner? (And I'm fully aware of who he is.)

astrochex 03-24-2019 03:42 PM

^30s at the most?

He has cleaned up a bit, his hair used to be much longer when he had the Indy Lights team.

Eric Coffey 03-24-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10402895)

Edit - but Indy car is WAY faster than Moto GP. Marquez has the pole record at 2:02.

Beat me to it...

Those slow-pokes on GP bikes can't even crack the 2:00 mark! :D

chapo 03-24-2019 09:52 PM

Great fun to watch, kept my attention all the way through. Some great battles and daring moves, everything F1 doesn’t have

David 03-25-2019 08:29 AM

It was a great race in person. We debated going all weekend and then made the call Sunday morning. We didn't get to the race til about lap 25 due to a quick 911 CV joint repair on the side of the road, but what we did see was awesome.

Considering the parking and ticket cost compared to F1, I think it was a great deal. Plus it was a much smaller crowd than F1 so much easier to get around.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1553527676.JPG

David 03-25-2019 08:35 AM

And why we missed the first 25 laps:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1553528007.jpg

yellowperil 03-25-2019 08:43 AM

Well done!
 
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Originally Posted by David (Post 10403763)
And why we missed the first 25 laps:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1553528007.jpg

Great picture.

pwd72s 03-25-2019 09:15 AM

That's hard core...carrying a spare CV joint.

Lap times? Still more exciting racing than F-1, where the big drama is guessing which Mercedes driver was chosen to win.

David 03-25-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 10403806)
That's hard core...carrying a spare CV joint.

Lap times? Still more exciting racing than F-1, where the big drama is guessing which Mercedes driver was chosen to win.

We're not that hardcore, it was just the CV bolts that backed out. Luckily we had tools with us since we'd been out at a rally all weekend.

legion 03-25-2019 10:12 AM

SPOILERS!!!!
































The owner of the winning team is 22! The winner is 18!

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/18-year-old-colton-herta-becomes-youngest-indycar-winner-celebrates-with-sparkling-wine

Deschodt 03-25-2019 10:20 AM

Same, been an F1 fan for >30 years, and I enjoy Indycar almost as much now, based on less ovals, more drivers I care about, good looking cars and incredible wheel to wheel passing...
I'd love to see what a Will power could do in F1, or Alonso in Indy ( I was hoping for a full season).

I just wish Indycar had a little less gimmicky racing, the red flags on qualifying killed the race 2 weekends in a row now, the yellows are being thrown a little too casually... I mean it can be fun to bring the field together, but I hate seeing a driver pull a lead and see it wiped out. F1 can be boring in ints predictability, Indy can be annoying it its unfairness sometimes...

cairns 03-25-2019 10:34 AM

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F1 relies heavily on technology. Indy relies on the driver. Lets see Hamilton drive a car without power steering and see how he does.
Probably a lot better than Juan Pablo Montoya. And he did pretty well.

livi 03-25-2019 12:08 PM

Yup. Seeing as Indy now has two Swedes and F1 none I am from now on going to watch that instead. Never watched Indy before. Surprisingly entertaining racing. At least compared to the snooze-fest F1 turned into.

astrochex 03-25-2019 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 10403907)
Same, been an F1 fan for >30 years, and I enjoy Indycar almost as much now, based on less ovals, more drivers I care about, good looking cars and incredible wheel to wheel passing...
I'd love to see what a Will power could do in F1, or Alonso in Indy ( I was hoping for a full season).

I just wish Indycar had a little less gimmicky racing, the red flags on qualifying killed the race 2 weekends in a row now, the yellows are being thrown a little too casually... I mean it can be fun to bring the field together, but I hate seeing a driver pull a lead and see it wiped out. F1 can be boring in ints predictability, Indy can be annoying it its unfairness sometimes...

Rules are the same for everybody in Indycar. What do you consider gimmicky?

Deschodt 03-25-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10404424)
Rules are the same for everybody in Indycar. What do you consider gimmicky?

Yellows mostly. In the past I’ve seen races with questionable yellows to bunch up the field...
This time specifically - pretty much verbatim what Will power said when interviewed. The yellows and pit closing rule is a lottery. This one made sense for a change but it’s still a gamble on pits. The best drivers get hung out to dry. Same with red flags in qualifying. Complete BS 2 weeks in a row - resume running - why not? . I wish Indy would sort of run events with F1 like rules - it’d still be cool and more fair. You never see Hamilton and Vettel go first to last because of a yellow like just happened to Rossi and Power.

chapo 03-25-2019 06:01 PM

Seems to me someone hit the wall at pit entrance to close the pits and cause a yellow? Will power said that the yellow didn't cost them the race, the blown half shaft did.

Deschodt 03-25-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chapo (Post 10404497)
Seems to me someone hit the wall at pit entrance to close the pits and cause a yellow? Will power said that the yellow didn't cost them the race, the blown half shaft did.

Yes, in this particular case - no argument.

But to me Indycar is too quick to throw yellows and bunch up the field "for the show". And killing qualifying with a red instead of restarting it robbed us of a true order - These teams are so close compared to F1 we don't need gimmicks. Rossi did not blow a half shaft and he was 2nd, on merit... If you have watched Indy for decades and can tell me they don't abuse yellows vs F1, and generate artificial bunching of the field for the show, and ruin the work of leaders, then OK, I got nothing...

I just watched the end of the race 1 hour ago and deleted it unfortunately or I could have quoted Will Power verbatim. Edit - found it

https://www.nbcsports.com/video/will-power-forced-retire-indycar-classic-due-mechanical-issue


He might have lost it to the driveshaft, but his statement on indycar and yellow/closed pits was *scathing* and I was in complete agreement.

I really like Indy, I wish the rules were less lottery prone, that's all. If you disagree, that's cool too.
Everyone is praising Colton Herta but had he pitted with Power and Rossi he would have finished 18th. Meh, whatever... Fun race.


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