Shotguns

[crb07]

Rem. 870

If you discharge it inside your hearing may have some permanent damage.

Originally Posted by KC911

Except stay the hell away from anything not half as old as you are...the new stuff .

Picked up one a couple of decades old....19" bbl....$375 a couple of years ago. Fiocchi 00 defensive load buckshot...tame recoil....threat stipping effectiveness....like 4 45 acps at once....within a football at say 25'....

Thread over?

Half as old as I am would be a flintlock. I have my dad's Belgian one from the 1800s. When they were first married (1946), they charged it up with black powder, made a "bullet" out of a piece of broomstick, put it in a vise on a workbench, got behind a bunch of boxes, and fired it by pulling a string attached to the trigger. Dad said it made a lot of smoke. Hard to imagine the quiet, reserved folks who raised me doing that! It still has the vise marks on the handle, and I smile whenever I see them. Dad's been gone for almost 25 years, but it's nice to have that memory.

[id10t]

Originally Posted by KC911

That or an 870.....but an old one .

When looking a few years ago...I visited a few stores to handle a few (both)..nope, not even if they were free. I'm a lefty, adapt to anything I pick up though....I still prefer the Remington 870...and an older one is better...even older, even better

Ford/Chevy vs classic Ford/classic Chevy....

But Fiocchi 00 Defensive Load buckshot is what I'd use....in whatever you get.

Nice thing about the mossy for lefties is the tang mounted safety.

Must also mention the Browning BPS for the sinister folk. Good reliable, quality stuff. Bottom ejecting.

[911boost]

I have a Winchester Defender from the late 90’s and a Remington 870 that was owned by a sheriffs department that I Duracoated.

We have used both the 590 and 870 for work with solid results. Meaning they have held up well.

[aigel]

The 870 is the go to in my book, but not new. Needs to be older used. At least 20 years old. Can be found used easily and you can buy an 18.5 inch barrel for it.

If you want new, I'd go with the Benelli pump over a new anything else. I would not buy an auto for defense.

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[KFC911]

Originally Posted by madcorgi

Half as old as I am would be a flintlock. I have my dad's Belgian one from the 1800s. ....

I had my g-g-g-grandfather's farm-spoon (since I was a kid and gf passed on) for over 4 decades....never shot it. 16 ga dbl bbl....gave it to a family member a few years back. Thanks to proof info David (Targa911s) sent me years ago...I determined it was Belgian from approx. 1890...mebbe not that old, but old is good

[sammyg2]

I've got a Savage 12 ga. pump action goose spoon with 7 round capacity, but with that short barrel you gotta get right up next to them gooses.

Cereal, I keep it for home defense and so far it has worked perfectly. No one has broken into my house since I bought it in 1980.
Come to think of it, I haven't fired it since 1981.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by brainz01

This is spot on.

If home defense is your sole objective, I'd buy the12 ga Mossberg 590 as above. That's a police/military grade shotgun and is very functional and reliable for the money.

If you want the gun to do double duty as a part time skeet/trap/sporting clays rig, then consider the Mossberg 930. It's semi auto and will make you faster in follow up shots. I'n my experience, however, it does require periodic (every couple hundred rounds) cleaning of the gas system in order to maintain perfect cycling reliability. Otherwise its a great value semiauto with good aftermarket support.

For any gun, black plastic stocks are likely slightly more durable (especially in the wet), but for shotguns I find them less "sociable", particularly on the sporting clays course - - all the fancy guys will have Berettas and Brownings and other guns with real wood. Just a consideration as most shotguns can be had with wood or plastic furniture.

Full disclosure, I prefer Mossberg to Remington mostly because I prefer the thumb safety on top. Others may prefer the crossbolt safety in the trigger guard that Remington uses. Both make fine shotguns in your price point.

Plastic/composite stocks aren't always that great. This one broke while he was pumping it. He is a Marine so...

[vash]

there are a couple of over/under "tactical" shotguns that caught my eye.

but there are flaws. first!! auto safety when you pivot open and close the gun. fine for the quail field, not so much when Mr Bad is coming in. second. NO EJECTORS!! who the eff would not install ejectors on a gun like that?! i can load a break open gun in an instant. especially with one of those sleeves that puts the spare shells right there on the side of the shotgun.

i want one, but i would want both of those things addressed. that Stoeger is cheap, but no thanks.

i bet SxS shotguns have been chasing off farm boys from farm girls for decades. super reliable and zero jams.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by vash

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i bet SxS shotguns have been chasing off farm boys from farm girls for decades. super reliable and zero jams.

My only uncle last shot my back in the early 70s.....he had six younger sisters .

A loaded SxS stood in the corner of both my grandparents houses as a youngin'.... more kids running around than a goat farm.

[911 Rod]

I'd get a laser sight just because they are cool.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

I'd get a laser sight just because they are cool.

I bet you have hairy palms too

I HOPE you get it....at least gimme time to 'splain to ya first

[Bob Kontak]

1:10 in

Bill Burr is hilarious.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

Le drool

I don't need another shot gun.

[vash]

Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid

Le drool

I don't need another shot gun.

i like it as well. and i dont need another shotgun either. but in my defense. i dont have one like that. i think if i was gonna get one of that genre..it would be a Benelli. M4 stainless.

[ryanjboutin]

Franchi SPAS-12.
You can hunt dinosaurs with it.

[vash]

Originally Posted by ryanjboutin

Franchi SPAS-12.
You can hunt dinosaurs with it.

hahah..i has fantasies about that thing in my youth. now not so much.

isnt that the weapon that dude went after the raptors with? in that movie

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by vash

i think if i was gonna get one of that genre..it would be a Benelli. M4 stainless.

I've got a Benelli M2 and love it. Simple, well made, fast action. When it was a ten shot it sounded like a machine gun if I wanted it to. We now have new gun laws so I've made it a five shot. Still fun, but not as much fun.

The measure is to throw by hand, a bunch of clays into the air and shoot as many as you can before they hit the ground.

Originally Posted by ryanjboutin

Franchi SPAS-12.
You can hunt dinosaurs with it.

Those are almost extinct around here.