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Simple question that may be answered earlier, but I didn’t see:
A Chinook flew overhead at work yesterday, with a slight yaw angle relative to direction of travel. Is this due to torque? Weathervaning?
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Yerp, it’s a local Velocity. Kinda falls into the rich guys canard. Have seen some with seriously pimped out custom interiors with Italian leather and wood trim. The factory in Florida is impressive. There is a video of the twin doing a fly by, sounds verrrryyyyy sexy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I wonder how those twin velocities fly on 1 engine
the push prop sits way in the back vs normal twin to the front.. how does that affect single engine behavior
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I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, but since the engines are so close to the center line I would think the off center thrust would be diminished.
Hoping someone with experience can give us the real answer. Best Les
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Mornin Les, You are pretty much on target with your thoughts regarding centerline thrust on one engine. Here is a link that better explains some of your questions in single engine performance in the twin Velocity. https://youtu.be/8MrSBaxHwYg As you can see, with the twin engine design, they lost the traditional vertical winglets and went with a traditional vertical stabilizer. I “thought” I read something about them even playing around with turban engines, but not 100% on that. Beachcraft designed and built the Starship. Just to bad the idea never gained traction. Cheers Bugs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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They perform surprisingly well on a single engine. I attached a link from the AOPA with a short flight review. That said, I personally have no one on one experience in the Twin Velocity……..yet ![]() Maybe someday the opportunity may present itself. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Got this in the mail yesterday….
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Thanks, Bugs. That sure is a pretty airplane. I had no idea it even existed.
One thing puzzled me. In the video, he said the airplane was controllable below stall speed. Since stall speed in my understanding is the speed at which the aerodynamic surfaces no longer generate lift, I am wondering if he meant the airplane could be recovered in that case. Best Les
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Being that it's difficult to examine composite construction for hidden flaws, the FAA's requirements for structural redundancy added so much weight from the original design that the final product had limited payload, and didn't offer the much higher performance over the King Air that was expected. Though the King Air is among the slower turboprops, it's easy to fly, is stable, and offers a large, comfortable cabin. Pilots enjoy flying hot rods, but when the CEO, who is riding in the back picks out the airplane, he votes for the big, comfortable cabin. Beechcraft has sold a ton of them. |
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With one engine out, the other at full throttle, below this speed, full rudder will no longer keep the airplane flying straight. Without immediately reducing throttle and shoving the nose down, the asymmetric torque from the operating engine out on the wing will cause the airplane to begin turning towards the dead engine, and begin to roll over on its back. It happens quicker than reading about it. Among all the colored markings on an Airspeed Indicator, twin engine airplanes have the Blue Line, marking Minimum controllable Airspeed. It is imperative when flying a twin to always remain above Blue Line. |
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In one of the videos, factory tour, the pilot demonstrated the aircraft's response to a stall.. The nose dropped,(hands off) it recovered airspeed, nose went up again, but not as far. The aircraft went through two or three oscillations before resuming level flight at the power setting selected. Not quite idiot proof, but impressive.
Thanks again for the guidance and links. I'm just a tech junkie. ![]() Best Les
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I love this……
Folks WAYYYYYYY smarter than me interjecting their experiences and expertise. It a win win for everyone. Thanks for everyone’s input. Keep it rollin, or flyin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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It says all things aviation related....I've been going through the training process to work as an ARFF fireman at LAX.
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