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I've been to TJ. Never again, sh!!t-hole.
Dirty, stinky, crime-ridden sh!!-hole.

The article nailed it but obviously upsets the voices:

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In compiling its rankings, Business Insider said it used U.S. Census information to analyze 1,000 U.S. cities on metrics such as crime, drug addiction, population changes, job opportunities, commute times, household incomes, abandoned homes and effects from problems such as natural disasters.

It decided that Gary, Ind., just outside Chicago, was the nation’s most miserable city, followed by Port Arthur, Texas, and Detroit.

What the most miserable cities had in common, according to the outlet, were “few opportunities, devastation from natural disasters, high crime and addiction rates, and often many abandoned houses.”

The 10 California cities and their rankings were: Bell Gardens (14); Compton (41); El Monte (22); Hemet (44); Huntington Park (10); Lancaster (50); Lynwood (21); Montebello (40); Palmdale; and San Bernardino (42).
Crap holes or have unbearable commutes. Or both.
Spot on.
If I lived in any of those cities I would certainly be miserable.

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The real problem is not city vs. country the really big problem is if one get's ALL their information from Fox "News" and then repeats what they hear on Fox "News" they tend to sound rather daft, and that's a problem anywhere: city, country, suburb ...
No, The real problem is people who refuse to acknowledge the obvious because they might see the truth as UNPLEASANT. That mean old truth, make it go away!
So they attack the messenger, look squirrel.
The fox news article discusses an article from Business Insider. Here is the link to the Business Insider article and study:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-miserable-cities-in-the-united-states-based-on-data-2019-9#34-fort-pierce-florida-17

Did you read the original study? LOL of course you didn't. neither did any of the other triggered in this thread.

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Well, California is a big place and it does have some awful cities. I admit that I did not bother to read that article and assumed that it meant regular cities. Those places listed are mostly industrial schit holes or desert collections of concrete and strip malls w tract housing. Sort of like Phoenix in CA. They are not places that anyone I know would ever live.
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I admit that I did not bother to read that article and assumed that it meant regular cities.
Duh
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PARF is leaking.
You must have some kind of penchant for conspiracy theories and Bigfoot sightings, or more likely a bad case of panphobia.
How you somehow decided that the link was political or religious is beyond understanding.
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I wonder if the reaction would have been different if the OP cited a business insider story, rather than a FOXNEWZ story.






JK, I don't doubt it even a little bit.
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I have been in many cities and California has some great cities and places. I would put Boron, Ca at the top of my list of horrible places. All I saw was the highway through town, but there ain’t much there to see except trucks and dirt. Hey Boron made Needles, Ca look like a garden spot.
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Part of the problem : "miserable" is a subjective term, you could live very well in one of these crappy cities or even the capitol of a third world country or you could be "miserable" in Greenwich, CT. Thanks for the link to the article which has kicked up so much dust , i will give it a read.
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Travel writers occasionally compile a list of the most beautiful states in the U.S., from first to worst. CA. is always #1, it isn’t really close. Alaska and Hawaii jostle for 2nd place, depending on the list.

Where this loser lives isn’t even in the top 30.
lol. snore.
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HA! Camden IS a natural disaster!
Been there once....four mid-20s white dudes making a wrong turn at 8 am....Gomers 'R Us...

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It’s irrelevant because none of them have the resources or talent to live here.
Lolololol. Wow.
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Wow. Lots of people sure showed us who they are on this thread.....not reading the article, assuming its bias, making it political, insulting others....
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I have no talent whatsoever. Every time I go there, I get stopped at the CA state line. Now to be fair, they do say I can visit for up to 7 days. But no way would they let me live there
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Part of the problem : "miserable" is a subjective term, you could live very well in one of these crappy cities or even the capitol of a third world country or you could be "miserable" in Greenwich, CT. Thanks for the link to the article which has kicked up so much dust , i will give it a read.
Back in the early 80's I worked in Daggett Ca for several months, it's almost a town east of Barstow.
I considered that place miserable.
i also worked a job in El Centro before that. Same same.

but I completely agree with your assessment of the original article: the word "miserable" is subjective and in their context, could be misleading.

They decided that cites with high levels of "crime, drug addiction, population changes, job opportunities, commute times, household incomes, abandoned homes and effects from problems such as natural disasters" would make a city a miserable place to live.

In many cases that would be true but I can also think of a few exceptions.
Places with long-term devastation from a natural disaster would likely fit, but what about a place that recovered quickly?
The bay area or Northridge earthquakes come to mind, or the recent flooding in Houston. Bad things do not necessarily make a place miserable.

To most folks, my commute is relatively long but that does not suggest the city I live in is miserable, just the opposite IMO.

It sounds to me like the criteria of the study was developed but committee and not well-focused.
I chalk it up to one of those 80/20 things, right 80% of the time.

But .... we are talking about it so it did it's job. The article and study got attention (and clicks) and sold advertisements.
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It’s irrelevant because none of them have the resources or talent to live here.
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Lolololol. Wow.
Well what do you know....not only can you take the boy out of the Midwest, you can take the Midwest out of the boy.

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I saw the true beauty of California last week on a motorcycle trip.....South to San Simeon on Hwy 1 - North the entire length of Hwy 49.

Beautiful - I have the talent and resources to live there, just not the desire. Love to visit a few times per year.
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I saw the true beauty of California last week on a motorcycle trip.....South to San Simeon on Hwy 1 - North the entire length of Hwy 49.

Beautiful - I have the talent and resources to live there, just not the desire. Love to visit a few times per year.
Yep, it is an unarguable fact Hwy1 along the coast is pretty. As long as the roads are open and no mudslides have it closed, or a firestorm is raging. Evey place has some bad days, and unfortunate weather. It is part of nature.

I enjoyed my week long stay in Monterey. Way too much traffic for my tastes, but I still like the area. For my trip home, the drive east from Dos Palos all the way to Arizona was some cities I would never want to live in. Once into Arizona the scenery finally was pretty again.

Utah has some magnificent national parks. And it has some areas of desert that has no signs of any life. Nothing green, just rocks and sand for endless miles, not even a city to be found.
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