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Crash into the cars and coffee crowd faster than ever before.

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That is crazy fast for a street car. I guess they are all back into HP wars and this time the cars all get decent mileage.

And if you factor in the inflation and get out of California, gas is really about the same price as 1970 gas. And those original muscle cars are slug slow compared to modern cars.
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That is crazy fast for a street car.
?? All of the top tier street cars have been turning those times for a few years now..
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?? All of the top tier street cars have been turning those times for a few years now..
And it is just crazy fast. Yea, lots of cars are near or even under a 10 second 1/4 mile. That is still faster than all but drag racers only from a few years back.

At most tracks they require a full roll cage to run under 10 second times.
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Would be fun / funny to see it go against a Tesla Model 3 Performance since they both have the same 0-60 times.
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Sub 11's on street tires? In a 4,200+ pound package? Holy smokes. My various bracket cars of the late '70's and early '80's had to be on slicks to do that, and they all weighed under 3,000 pounds.

I would be interested to see one of these things at a local bracket race. I would be willing to bet not a one actually breaks 12 seconds on its issue street tires. Horsepower alone won't do it, especially in a car that heavy. It's all about the launch and the first couple hundred feet when it comes to those kinds of ET's. That's where street tires fail...
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Sub 11's on street tires? In a 4,200+ pound package? Holy smokes. My various bracket cars of the late '70's and early '80's had to be on slicks to do that, and they all weighed under 3,000 pounds.

I would be interested to see one of these things at a local bracket race. I would be willing to bet not a one actually breaks 12 seconds on its issue street tires. Horsepower alone won't do it, especially in a car that heavy. It's all about the launch and the first couple hundred feet when it comes to those kinds of ET's. That's where street tires fail...
Have you ever driven a newer Porsche with Launch control? They will easily do that all day long.. on street tires.. and it's bullet proof... and this was 5 years ago..




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Would be fun / funny to see it go against a Tesla Model 3 Performance since they both have the same 0-60 times.
Not the Mustang, but...
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They say, these days, it's not how you crash - it's how well you crash.
No no; it's not how well you crash
it's how deep into the crowd can you plow !

They should bring out a Ford Mustang Juggernaut edition
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holy sjit there already is such a monstrocity !!!

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?? All of the top tier street cars have been turning those times for a few years now..
Camaros, mustangs and chargers?

Or are you talking about Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren?
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Camaros, mustangs and chargers?

Or are you talking about Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren?
Porsche is absolutely a normal street car class.. The others, I would consider exotics/rare/etc..
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Not the Mustang, but...
That car is stupid fast and has ridiculous handles too - we took a pretty sharp turn getting on a fwy on ramp at like 80 and the car didn't make a sound.
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Sub 11's on street tires? In a 4,200+ pound package? Holy smokes. My various bracket cars of the late '70's and early '80's had to be on slicks to do that, and they all weighed under 3,000 pounds.

I would be interested to see one of these things at a local bracket race. I would be willing to bet not a one actually breaks 12 seconds on its issue street tires. Horsepower alone won't do it, especially in a car that heavy. It's all about the launch and the first couple hundred feet when it comes to those kinds of ET's. That's where street tires fail...
Every Mustang from 2015+ has a line lock and a launch mode. I've never used either feature myself.
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Would be fun / funny to see it go against a Tesla Model 3 Performance since they both have the same 0-60 times.
My friend has a Model S. He can beat my Mustang in a drag race. The key difference, is after the drag race, I can drive 150 miles to Chicago whereas he has to go back to the charger.
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When you get to a certain HP/lbs ratio plateau...isn't 4WD a requirement?

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Have you ever driven a newer Porsche with Launch control? They will easily do that all day long.. on street tires.. and it's bullet proof... and this was 5 years ago..
No, I have never had the pleasure. Aren't those Turbos shown in those two videos 4WD? And about 1,000 lbs lighter than this Mustang?

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Every Mustang from 2015+ has a line lock and a launch mode. I've never used either feature myself.
The line lock is (or was in my day) only used to keep the car stationary during the burnout.

Launch control limits the throttle and/or feathers the clutch to avoid wheelspin, right? There still has to be a certain level of mechanical grip.

Back in my day, sub-11 second cars ran on slicks. There was no "launch control", but there was plenty of traction. The four speed cars were launched by sitting on the line as the Christmas Tree counted down with the motor turning 6,000-7,000 rpm. Timing this to when we thought the light was going to turn green (looking for that hole shot), we simply stepped off the clutch pedal. Anyone who has ever done this knows just how utterly violent the ensuing mayhem really is - it sounds like you smacked a manhole cover with a sledgehammer. That's what it took to get into the tens.

Maybe they make it up with horsepower now, with the cars accelerating much more aggressively in the top half of the track. I've watched many of the undoubtedly countless videos of these cars supposedly running in the tens, and I just don't see the violent launches that characterized those E.T.'s back when I was playing the game.

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