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Shaun @ Tru6 03-26-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 11273852)
Is that chart firearms related murders or murders in general?

Also, does it cover suicide bombings and "armies" that rape and murder because they can?

it's all murders I think. I just scrolled down, we are 94, next Western country is Canada ranked at 152.

varmint 03-26-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11272685)
I have never wanted anyone to die. What's that like? Is it something you think about? What happens if you find someone in Alaska you want dead?



will borrow a bear skull from my neighbor. they are fairly common around.

take my post hole digger. tape the top of the skull to one side and the lower jaw to the other.

invite the victim for walk in the woods.

when we get far enough out i will fall a little behind. grab the tool for a hidden spot and chomp chomp chomp.


walk away. good luck proving it wasn't a bear attack.






not that I've thought about this.

Tobra 03-26-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 11272838)
Some use bombs which can be far more effective.

Or knives or fire.

Some people are a bit in the dark about how good it is here, and how bad it is most other places.

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11273033)
We are entirely unique in terms of Western civilized world. No other country even close to use culturally has, as a percentage, the same number of people who want to shoot other people and do.

So the question stands, why do so many Americans shoot other Americans vs. other countries?

This is a nice example of what the problem is in the USA. It is always about ME and MY desires.

He asked you nicely to desist, but apparently you are immune to that.


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Originally Posted by yellowline (Post 11273038)
A sense of entitlement.

“It’s my way or the highway.”

“This town ain’t big enough for the two of us.”

“I don’t need to drive sober/wait in line/follow the next car safely, I’m spe-shul.”

All uniquely American remarks and mindsets. Germans and Brits and the rest would wear 6 masks if their leaders said to do so. That doesn’t suit us, so we won’t do it.

Post-1980 America is a great combination of spoiled children provoking other spoiled children, who in turn think violence will solve their problems.

Exactly. See above
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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11273876)
it's all murders I think. I just scrolled down, we are 94, next Western country is Canada ranked at 152.

Where did you get the graph? You could provide a link and then we can explain to you why it does not mean what you purport it to mean.

cabmandone 03-26-2021 12:49 PM

I lost the key to my gun safe.

masraum 03-26-2021 01:46 PM

Of course, there are lots of ways to make data say what you want it to say. And any time you try to correlate things between various countries, you're going to have a hard time because various policies may mean that things are recorded reported differently. Who's to say that some countries don't report much lower numbers to look good or for any number of other reasons.

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings

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Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) - Country Ranking

Definition: Intentional homicides are estimates of unlawful homicides purposely inflicted as a result of domestic disputes, interpersonal violence, violent conflicts over land resources, intergang violence over turf or control, and predatory violence and killing by armed groups. Intentional homicide does not include all intentional killing; the difference is usually in the organization of the killing. Individuals or small groups usually commit homicide, whereas killing in armed conflict is usually committed by fairly cohesive groups of up to several hundred members and is thus usually excluded.

Source: UN Office on Drugs and Crime's International Homicide Statistics database.
We are tied at #55 on that list with Zamibia and Greenland.

Jim Bremner 03-26-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 11272450)
I don't have a gun.



Please don't buy one.

Gretch 03-26-2021 01:49 PM

the 13% completely screws up the statistics, and their associated "culture" is not even remotely related to that of the founding values of the country.

so, the original premise could not be more completely phuqed up nor wrong.

No sale.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-26-2021 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 11273927)
will borrow a bear skull from my neighbor. they are fairly common around.

take my post hole digger. tape the top of the skull to one side and the lower jaw to the other.

invite the victim for walk in the woods.

when we get far enough out i will fall a little behind. grab the tool for a hidden spot and chomp chomp chomp.


walk away. good luck proving it wasn't a bear attack.





not that I've thought about this.

Pretty good but like most criminals, not 100% fully thought out. Points awarded for creativity though and the "chomp chomp chomp" is both illustrative and adorable all in one.

Where are you going to get a cup or two of bear saliva? Volunteer at the zoo? Circus maybe? You will need bear saliva.

varmint 03-27-2021 01:30 AM

They crap in my yard all summer long. And I think I can probably swab some saliva off one of the bird feeders they raid.

I am also counting on the professionalism of the local cops who are known for just shrugging whenever someone dies in the wood up here.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-27-2021 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11274135)
Of course, there are lots of ways to make data say what you want it to say. And any time you try to correlate things between various countries, you're going to have a hard time because various policies may mean that things are recorded reported differently. Who's to say that some countries don't report much lower numbers to look good or for any number of other reasons.

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings



We are tied at #55 on that list with Zamibia and Greenland.

next Western country is Canada at 103. We certainly like to kill a lot more than our cousins do.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-27-2021 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 11274585)
They crap in my yard all summer long. And I think I can probably swab some saliva off one of the bird feeders they raid.

I am also counting on the professionalism of the local cops who are known for just shrugging whenever someone dies in the wood up here.

sounds like a plan.

yellowperil 03-27-2021 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 11274140)
Please don't buy one.

And I don't know ANYONE who owns a gun.

Seahawk 03-27-2021 04:25 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1616847881.jpg

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019

https://www.amren.com/news/2020/09/fbi-blacks-made-up-55-9-of-known-murder-offenders-in-2019/

Seahawk 03-27-2021 04:44 AM

Baz, your focus on guns was fair but ensured a fur ball. The question is complex and nearly bottomless: Why do I get up and enjoy going to work everyday?

When I owned guns, before they were all lost in a tragic boating accident on the Potomac, the reason I never picked one up in anger is because I was raised well in an intact family unit at a time when kids were not bombarded by violent images and actually played outside.

That and conflict resolution: We prevent it as a society with disastrous results.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1616849085.jpg

varmint 03-27-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11274617)
sounds like a plan.



My wife is obsessed with true crime tv. Sometimes in the middle of an episode I’ll catch her staring at me like she just had an idea.

tabs 03-28-2021 12:24 AM

Hmm difficult question. I never played violent video games nor was entralled with violent potrayals from the entertainment industry.

tabs 03-28-2021 01:05 AM

So Gun Control is a Racist endeavor to subjugate peoples of Colour.

tabs 03-28-2021 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11272471)
because killing people is not the solution to toxic masculinity, therapy is.

So is castration..

tabs 03-28-2021 01:27 AM

To answer the question. I am too busy whackin off..

drcoastline 03-28-2021 02:19 AM

I don't know why? What ever the reason I suppose it's the same reason why I don't have any desire to hunt or why I swerve or brake to miss an animal in the street rather than run it over?

I guess it may also be the same reason I can't ever imagine committing suicide. I can't imagine anything being that bad to take my on life yet thousands of people annually find life unbearable and take their own lives.

I could also never imagine having my life consumed by drugs or alcohol. How am I getting my next fix or I can't wait to have a drink.

That being said I could very easily kill someone if I knew they were trying to kill me, my family or friends or innocent people. I also do not feel bad for people sentenced to death for their crimes.


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